Friday roundup: Islanders close to Nassau deal, Olympic stadium to be razed after four uses, and it’s rethink your MLS stadium site week!

And in other stadium and arena news this week:

Have a great weekend, and see you Monday!


22 comments on “Friday roundup: Islanders close to Nassau deal, Olympic stadium to be razed after four uses, and it’s rethink your MLS stadium site week!

  1. The Blackhawks and Redwings last night was embarrassing at puck-drop. Especially for a O6 rivalry. It looked more like a Hurricanes game. It would be interesting to see what the “payback” from the “development” of PizzaPizza arena; I seriously doubt tax dollars are exponentially generated when there is no one in attendance.

  2. Weren’t the residents of the Orange Bowl neighborhood already screwed over by the Marlins and their stadium?

    Also, since you rightfully point out journalistic quirks… you really should put “home” between “regular-season” and “games” as without it the other half would technically be the Islanders’ road games.

  3. A disposable stadium was one of the few things I liked about the Chicago 2016 bid. (of course the thing I liked most was we didn’t win it) No one needs an 80,000 seat track and field stadium except for the Olympics.

    • Your comment made me want to see what the attendance was at pro (Diamond League) track and field events. They do not appear to publish that information (but they do sell tickets). I think the main reason is that they comp or discount the tickets heavily and do not feel it would be helpful to publish paid attendance (misleadingly low) and tickets allocated (misleadingly high). We all know sports that like the misleadingly high method and have enough logic-locked boosters that provide cover but apparently track fans are a little more grounded.

      Anyway, the attendance at major pro track events are significantly less than 80,000 and usually just annual events.

      • They should develop a “medium track” series. Larger than indoor track (200m), but smaller than official track (400m), that would fit in standard US/Europe football/soccer stadiums. You could have meets in more cities, and give empty stadiums some dates.

  4. Regarding the orange bowl site: the Marlins Park and parking garages occupy most of the land. There is a patch of grass nearby, but it’s unlikely you could fit a soccer stadium on it without raising more if the housing nearby.

    • The problem isn’t being able to make a stadium fit, it’s the Marlins being able to control the soccer teams sponsorship revenue.

  5. MLS clearly doesn’t have it’s shit together on Miami expansion. Delay it and let Sacramento and Cincinnati into the league ahead of Miami.

    • But but but…. David Beckham… something something… spur development…. mumble mumble… spin off revenues…. baaaa badddaa baaaaaa…. investment…hhhrrrrmmmmmphhhhhaaaaa… employment….ummmmmmm…everyone wins.

  6. Miami is run by Cuban politicians and local Cuban royalty have partnered with Beckham. Don’t be surprised if the stadium gets built at Port of Miami after all. However I think it’s all just speculation at this point.

  7. Since the U moved it’s football games out of the Orange Bowl and into Joe Robbie stadium (don’t care what company is presently paying to have it’s name associated with Stephen Ross’s incompetently run NFL team), their attendance and general level of support has plummeted.

    And since the Orange bowl – almost always full to overflowing for both Dolphin and U games during it’s day – was demolished to ‘clear blight’ and make way for a modern sports facility that would spur development and be an economic driver for the area, next to no-one goes to sporting events there (admittedly, it’s the Marlins, but still… if a new sports venue draws 1/7th of the fans the one it replaced did…)

    Since professional sports and the business of developing venues for same is all about the ‘economic impact’, what conclusion can we draw from the fact that fans mostly don’t bother to go watch the teams that used to play at the Orange bowl (at least not in the numbers they used to go to the Orange bowl) and now don’t even bother to go to the shiny new venues that replaced the Orange bowl?

    I bet no franchise owner or sports league is willing to pay Andrew Zimbalist or Mark Rosentraub to study this phenomena.

  8. I don’t want to sound, you know, petty… but haven’t the Islanders ownership only won the “competition” for the right to develop the Belmont lands for an arena thus far?

    Most media outlets seem to be reporting that the new Islanders arena will be ‘ready’ in 2021 (or maybe 2022). There is no design. There is no financing plan. There is no transport plan. No construction company has been hired.

    Even as ‘formalities’ normally go in arena shakedowns, that’s quite a lot to gloss over isn’t it?

    • The Islanders do have a rendering of the arena and the area around it:
      https://archpaper.com/2017/12/islanders-come-home-new-arena/#gallery-0-slide-6

      Ownership hopes to complete the arena by the early 2020’s and the ownership plans to fund the construction. The 64K question is funding the transit infrastructure; I believe ownership believes Andrew will take care of that.

  9. Neil, you may be losing the “arenas don’t stimulate economic development” argument. I went hiking with two down the line left-wing friends yesterday and they both credit the Kings & Lakers arena in LA as the catalyst for downtown’s revival. Guessing that the NYT article helped.

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