First off, thanks to all the FoS subscribers for your patience with the bumpy launch of posts-by-email: The good news is that I think I’ve finally landed on a solution that will consistently get the latest news into your inboxes — and better yet, do so as soon as the posts are live, rather than waiting till 10 am Eastern time like the old system did. The glorious future will arrive soon, I’m sure!
But this weekly roundup post is not about the future, but about the recent past, although it’s past events about requests for subsidies in the future, which — you know what, let me just shut up and get to the news:
- The Cleveland Guardians owners’ request for up to $400 million in public money for stadium renovations had its first hearing this week from the Cleveland city council’s finance committee, and several committee members said they’d have a tough time selling constituents on handing over more money to the local rich guy: “I hope this conversation gets to be about the economic importance in our community and not just about rich sports owners,” said councilmember Blaine Griffin said. “I have families that are struggling every day just to keep a roof over their heads,” said councilmember Mike Polensek. “This one’s going to be a hard sell, and I understand the economic impact. When everyone comes to the table, come prepared,” said councilmember Brian Kazy. The committee didn’t vote on anything, though, so it’s tough to say whether this was an indication that these councilmembers will actually oppose the subsidy, or just that they want a better explanation — or maybe some new mental health centers like last time — to cover their butts with angry constituents.
- The Tampa Bay Times editorial board thinks Tampa Bay Rays president Brian Auld’s explanation of how the team plans to build stadiums and play games in two different countries is “cogent” and “practical” and could be “a newfound engine for tourism and economic development,” all words that sound good until you actually think about them. The Times has a long history of shilling for local sports team owners, going back to when it was the Tampa Tribune (which was bought and merged into the St. Petersburg Times in 2016), with one former Tribune sportswriter explaining back in 1999 during a Buccaneers stadium dispute that ““I don’t think it was any secret in the Tampa Tribune newsroom that if we lose the Bucs, there’s going to be a good chunk of advertising revenue out the window.” Or maybe the editors actually do think that asking fans in Montreal to buy tickets for games all summer to a team that if it wins the pennant will play its postseason games in Florida is cogent and practical! There’s a fine line between stupid and clever.
- That study of potential Buffalo Bills stadium sites that is not the cost-benefit study that New York Gov. Kathy Hochul is refusing to release to the public is set to be released in November or so, and everyone is all excited for some reason that it may look at a site in downtown Buffalo in addition to the current stadium location out in the suburbs. Meanwhile, the Erie County legislature was set to debate a resolution yesterday requiring three public hearings to be held before the county can vote to approve any stadium deal, but it doesn’t look like the minutes have been posted yet, and modern newspapers can no longer afford to have reporters watch legislative hearings even when they happen online, so we’ll have to wait a bit to find out what happened there.
- Lexington is getting a USL team … as soon as it builds a 6,000- to 10,000-seat stadium. According to the Lexington Herald-Leader, prospective owner Bill Shively “insisted Tuesday the franchise will not be supported by city dollars. Still, there has to be city support to make this thing go, support in terms of interest, involvement and ticket sales.” Guess we’ll have to see what that word salad ends up meaning, but “will not be supported by city dollars” traditionally means “will be supported by city dollars that we can pretend aren’t city dollars,” so don’t get too excited just yet.
- In May, the Nebraska legislature passed a law allowing state sales taxes in districts around a sports complex to be kicked back to pay for the venue — a STIF, in other words. If you predicted that this would lead to an application for pickleball subsidies, you’re our lucky winner!
- College football games in Florida haven’t been reducing capacity or requiring fans to wear masks, yet there have been no reported Covid outbreaks so far this fall among fans attending games. This is good news, and is further evidence that pretty much no coronavirus infections take place outdoors, even with the Delta variant, so we should mostly worry about masking up and requiring vaccinations for indoor activities. (No, this has nothing to do with sports subsidies, except that it affects teams’ bottom lines, but since I’ve raised the alarm about outdoor sporting events and Covid transmission here previously, I wanted to present the latest data point. Also, you know, proper Covid precautions could save thousands and thousands of lives, so there’s that.)
- I’m sorry, you there in the back, did you say you wanted to see some Des Moines soccer vaportecture? Sure, enjoy this image of soccer fans about to be run over by a car! (I mean, it’s probably a woonerf, but knowing American sports-fan drivers, they’re totally about to be run over by a car.)
There are junior high stadiums that meet US Soccer PLS benchmarks for Division III and they’re talking 10,000 seats?
I assume they’re getting a USL Championship team. That’s division 2.
Right?
Nope, League One, which is Division III.
Egads.
Anyone else getting major ABA vibes from the USL? And I’m not talking about the ABA that the likes of Julius Erving played in…
The USL hasn’t quite yet started giving franchises to people living in their moms’ basements.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/garage-geniuses-pro-basketball-team-run-moms-brooklyn/story?id=38305345
A general comment about football and covid and Florida.
I’ll agree what we are seeing is promising with a couple of caveats, because this is Florida:
miamis pro team hasn’t had great attendance. Tampa has been better but not exactly sold out. So it may be a matter of more distancing in general b
And in college, as I’ve heard it said, it’s kind of a calculated risk because fans (alumni) travel to games and then go home. An outbreak is hard to pin to the game.
Contact tracing in Florida is haphazard, so if someone did get it from attending a game, we might not know.
But as I said, the trend is certainly promising.
Meanwhile, St. Louis seems bound and determined to get back into bed with the wh … er, “sex worker” … from whom it got syphilis in the first place:
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/10/09/could-st-louis-emerge-from-rams-relocation-case-with-an-expansion-team/
Am personally hoping very strongly for an actual trial, irrespective of outcome and appeal and so forth. Just want to see the likes of the above-it-all Jerry Jones and Stan Kroenke have to perform on the stand. The STL attorneys reportedly have former Rams coach Jeff Fisher, hired in 2012, asserting that Kroenke and lackey Kevin Demoff were extraordinarily interested during Fisher’s interview in how Fisher handled the Oilers’ move from Houston and took the Oilers/Titans to a Super Bowl in a few short years in a new city. It all goes from there.
May there be no bottom to all of this …
Stan Kroenke Has an “Ironclad” Commitment to Pay Any Settlement Costs, But If It’s a Lot Maybe He’ll Try to Duck Out of Them Anyway, and Then the NFL Will Offer an Expansion Team Instead of Money, Say People Mike Florio Can’t Even Dignify With a “League Sources Say”
I hope you are right about all the dirty laundry coming out, Russ.
However, “this” (or nearly this point) is generally where the rich guy in any criminal investigation/trial realizes he is going to lose (which is typically several weeks after his attorneys tell him he is likely to lose and he begins telling them they are stupid and don’t know what they are doing) and offers to pay a larger settlement than the judgement he is likely facing in order to “move things along”.
With no admission of any criminal wrongdoing or guilt, obviously.
Ah, justice.
There are some practical considerations with regard to NFL expansion that, at least in my view, make it unlikely any time soon. With 8 divisions in place, expanding by less than 4 teams is going to create significant imbalances. But perhaps a greater obstacle is the lack of ‘good’ markets to expand to domestically.
Barring a return to places like San Diego or St. Louis, you are very much into the 2m MSA population zone… which is not really what the NFL wants.
There are certainly smaller markets already in the ‘club’ (I counted 8 not in the top 30 media markets), but the point is that the league would be expanding to very much second or third tier cities.
Does going back to St Louis (where two teams have already skipped town) make sense? Would STL even want the NFL back, given the amount it would cost to build a new stadium?
Who would own the club? Are there billionaires from St Louis that would want in to the owner’s club? In a city that the Cardinals effectively own? Not sure.
Could the NFL try to expand en masse to Europe?
It’s been mooted that an entire division might be moved/created to make this work. Would London, Montreal, Berlin and Frankfurt (just for argument’s sake) make a viable “world” division? How many years/decades would it take for such a division to generate the kinds of revenues the NFL would expect from such large markets?
Very hard to say.
If the NFL were to expand, I can see a 36-team league, with three 6-team divisions in each conference. The Chargers have proven that an MLS stadium can host an NFL team, so I figure any football expansion can take advantage of the soccer presence. Such an arrangement can cover any third St. Louis NFL team.
However, if the NFL isn’t ready for an expansion, St. Louis could be the preferred destination for any NFL franchise willing to relocate. This is one possibility that could arise out of, for example, any failures in Cincinnati to provide holographic replays for the Bengals.