Friday roundup: Coyotes suing Phoenix over arena suit, Bills agree to CBA with no oversight, and other adventures in fine print

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22 comments on “Friday roundup: Coyotes suing Phoenix over arena suit, Bills agree to CBA with no oversight, and other adventures in fine print

  1. “…a benefits agreement that doesn’t benefit anyone…”

    I bet it will benefit the members of the Board that divvies up the boodle.

  2. I think you are off a couple of zeroes on the CHIPS act funding. Shouldn’t it be Billion and not Million?

      1. By the words of a former independent presidential candidate, there’s some eCONomix involved here…

        “You make more making computer chips than potato chips.”

        — H. Ross Perot

  3. Former pilot says the location of Tempe’s proposed entertainment district raises safety concerns

    [W. David] Doiron said the proposed Tempe Entertainment District would put a group of buildings on the centerline of Arizona’s busiest runway. Pilots taking off on the airport’s east side would have to quickly gain altitude. And when a jet is low to the ground, it’s hard to turn it away from something.

    “I can see the conditions and I see the risk. I’m afraid the wheeler-dealers and the famous people that signed onto this thing, they don’t see the risk,” said Doiron.

    Doiron also said that Tempe did not seek input from its own aviation panel.

    https://kjzz.org/content/1843506/former-pilot-says-location-tempes-proposed-entertainment-district-raises-safety

    1. I suspect that maybe Phoenix is using the airport thing as a pretext to keep out a competitive arena, but that doesn’t mean they aren’t right about the safety issues.

      I don’t quite understand the noise thing. If somebody wants to build apartments next to a runway, with the full understanding of how loud it is, then isn’t it *their* problem to figure out how to find people who will put up with the noise? Why would the noise-maker object to that?

      1. “I suspect that maybe Phoenix is using the airport thing as a pretext to keep out a competitive arena”

        I’m not sure about that, really. Phoenix doesn’t have an arena that can support hockey without significant upgrades. The Footprint Center (where the Suns play) is not suitable for hockey. The Veterans Memorial Coliseum would need significant upgrades and, of course, it’s 58 years old.

        1. It’s not the hockey games that would concern Phoenix, it’s the other (true money making events -ask Glendale) such as concerts that would be in competition with the Suns arena.

        2. With competition from Chase Field and State Farm Stadium (Taylor Swift) and Desert Diamond Arena, in addition to multiple Indian casino venues Phoenix will never make much money from Footprint Center with or without a Coyotes Arena. The Coyotes won’t make money either. Rental cars, uber fees, airport concessions, more flights with larger planes, air freight etc are the issues that Phoenix is concerned about.

        3. Not for hockey, but other events. It’s well-established that no other existing arena can support an NHL team except, perhaps, the one in Glendale that kicked them out.

      2. The airport as noise-maker would object because people will complain and sue even after they are informed that their residence is directly in the flight path of a major airport. A development like this could also make it difficult for the airport to expand at a later date.

        An example of this is in Tempe is the Shady Park music venue and the senior community that opened after the music venue. Residents sued because the music was too loud. This temporarily prevented the venue from hosting concerts. Looks like both parties agreed to settle with Shady Park implementing additional noise mitigation measures.

        The most laughable part of this whole thing is the idea that the Coyotes organization (which cannot even pay their taxes on time and sues cities for $2.3 billion) would honor any indemnification agreement to protect the airport against lawsuits related to the development.

        1. I guess the part that I don’t understand is how people could sue the airport for being too loud after they willingly rented an apartment or bought a house within sight of the airport.

          Airports are not a new thing, relatively, so I would imagine this is a well-established area of real estate law. I would think that anyone who lives in that area would have to sign away their right to sue over the noise.

          But perhaps that would just be too straightforward and sensible.

          I don’t understand how the airport could expand to the east. There’s a river and an interstate in the way, isn’t there?

      3. Tempe made a deal with Phoenix 30 years ago that forces Phoenix to send out flights single file when using eastbound departures. Tempe has been building apartments closer and closer to Sky Harbor and now clearly want to break through the 65db boundary. If it’s OK to build apartments at Priest and Rio Salado then it’s OK for planes to turn at Priest and cross over Tempe. Mayor Woods, you opened up the airport issue when you started playing with the laughingstock of “professional” sports, the Arizona Coyotes, and now Tempe will pay the price when Phoenix wins in court. A franchise that has operating losses north of $1 billion in 27 years isn’t professional.

        1. That’s not really fair. The coaches and players are professional and, with some exceptions, behave as such. It’s not their fault that the people that own the team can’t really afford to do so.

          Besides, the current Coyotes would probably not make the top 10 or even top 20 in a list of worst-run major league franchises in North American history.

          Based on some recent reports from the NFL and NBA, it’s not even clear that the Coyotes are the worst-run sports franchise in Arizona.

  4. Stand at the corner of Rio Salado and Priest from 6am to 7am and you will clearly hear who has the winning argument.

      1. The Tempe Aviation Commission advises the Mayor and City Council and assists City departments regarding matters related to the impact of aircraft and airport operations on Tempe residents; the monitoring, implementation, and enforcement of agreements made between the City of Phoenix and the City of Tempe concerning the operations of Sky Harbor International Airport; studies conducted of local airports and their potential impact on Tempe residents; and, land use measures that could mitigate the impact of aircraft and airport operations.

        www.tempe.gov/government/city-clerk-s-office/boards-and-commissions/active-boards-commissions-committees-and-other-public-bodies/aviation-commission

  5. That “All Net Sports Arena” from Jackie Robinson has been “in the works” for well over a decade. With Tmobile, Mandalay Bay, MGM, Thomas and Mack amung other venues I do not understand what else would play there besides his hypothetical expansion basketball team.

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