Friday roundup: OKC mayor wants new Thunder arena because 22-year-old one is “getting older,” and other things to sigh deeply over

Before we even get to the bullet points, we need to start with this: Oklahoma City Mayor David Holt announced yesterday in his State of the City speech that he wants to build a new arena for the Thunder to replace their current one, which just turned 22 years old and is receiving a $100 million upgrade begun in 2011. The present building is “simply not what it used to be,” according to Holt, and  “will keep getting older,” which, yep, that’s how time works. “Seats get old, scoreboards get old, elevators break,” said Holt. Everything breaks, dunnit?

To help pay for a new arena, Holt wants to extend the 1% sales tax surcharge that paid for the old one and which is currently set to expire in 2028. Holt described this as “no tax increase will be necessary,” which is true if you mean that Oklahoma City residents won’t have to pay any more in taxes than they do now, but not true if you mean whether they’d have to pay more than they would if the Thunder were forced to continue to play in their aging more-than-two-decade-old arena instead of an aging new one.

The tax extension would at least require a public vote, as the original one did. Still, J.C. Bradbury has a point:

Nothing wrong with getting a new arena every year, so long as you’re not the one paying for it. And now, on to the week in bullet points:

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14 comments on “Friday roundup: OKC mayor wants new Thunder arena because 22-year-old one is “getting older,” and other things to sigh deeply over

  1. Here’s a Friday roundup item about the potential for “a trop” demolition and a little about the As

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/sports/athletics/tropicana-demolition-plan-on-hold-as-as-finalize-ballpark-plan-2875091/

  2. Can you explain why Snyder’s fine was announced on the same day as the sale went through? That can’t be a coincidence, but I can’t quite understand it. Was it just that he was waiting for the $6bn check to clear (I suspect it doesn’t happen like that, but maybe it does) before agreeing to pay what he knows he owed?

    He seems to have capitulated on everything all at once after showing every intention of fighting this to his dying breath. And he’s shown for 25 years that reality is no impediment to his obstinance. So this is a surprising U turn.

    But now that he’s not an owner, why would he agree to pay their fines for stuff he said he didn’t do (narrator: he almost did do what they said he did and a whole lot more).

    That makes me think that they cut a deal. That Snyder actually got something out of this. Perhaps he really owes way more than $60m and the league agreed to let that go just to get this over with.

    1. A friend of mine sold his business for a decent sum. In that case, yeah it was basically just waiting for the check to clear.

      It showed up in his account and he’s like “hey how about that?”

  3. Visited Seattle for the first time (as a civilian) back in April (don’t count my “drunk sailor” years at Bremerton in the late 80’s). Beautiful city! Restaurants in the Pikes Public Market area were packed, with waits of at least one hour; no All Star game needed.

  4. The irony(?) of the OKC Thunder is that they will always be worth more to another owner in a different market.
    They don’t add much to the NBA pot, their principal owner isn’t that wealthy by league standards. Their ownership group is a who’s who of Oklahoma corporate leaders. In many ways the team’s existence is due to local leaders wanting a team and tasking Bennett & Co on getting one.

    Employers in cities like OKC have a tough time retaining talent, it’s just not a desirable place to live. In the oil and gas industry top employees want to get to Dallas or Houston. They’ll stomach a few years in OKC, Tulsa or the Permian Basin if it means a better quality of life later in a major Texas city. The Thunder exist because OKC leadership want a team to show employers it’s a real major city.

    At some point, maybe a recession hits Big Oil, or Dust Bowl 2.0 or NBA team valuations reach something crazy, the OKC Thunder ownership group will entertain offers by an out of state owner with clear intentions to move the team elsewhere.

      1. They’d rather drive into a concrete wall at 90mph than pay for an arena and their Courtside seats.

  5. What a twist of irony. Say a new arena is failed to be built and the Thunder return to Seattle to be the Sonics .

    1. Lol. Doesn’t every team rumoured to be even slightly portable now have to go to Vegas????

    2. It’s more likely that the Sonics will return as an expansion team, along with one in Vegas, before the Thunder are ready to move.

  6. Running Express busses from Dodger Stadium to existing LA Metro stations sure isn’t sexy, but it’s probably far more efficient than a point to point gondola line. Unless they were floating gondolas with sining gondoliers.

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