Knoxville approves Smokies stadium rezoning, still needs to work out who’ll pay the $90m cost

The Knoxville City Council voted 8-1 last night to approve rezonings for Tennessee Smokies owner Randy Boyd’s new up-to-$90-million downtown stadium, which would be funded in part by $74.5 million in public spending. (About $19 million of that would eventually be repaid via rent payments; the rest will come largely from a mess of tax kickbacks.) And what did they have to say for themselves?

“I think it’s going to bring in tourism,” [councilmember Seema] Singh said. “It gives us a city identity, something to unify around.”

“I absolutely would like for the stadium, if it were to move forward, to move forward without public funding,” [councilmember Amelia] Parker said. “There have been numerous studies produced and shared with members of city council members and county commission members that clearly outline how other cities and their investments have not resulted in the return that they had hoped.”

Three guesses who the one “no” vote was!

This was the first council vote on the stadium plan, but by no means the last: Knoxville’s brand-new sports authority that was created for the purpose of building this stadium is “still negotiating” a final development agreement with Boyd — who, as a reminder, is not just the local rich sports team owner but also the president of the University of Tennessee and a former Republican gubernatorial candidate — according to TV station WBIR, which doesn’t say much else about the state of the funding talks, because that’s not how WBIR rolls. We could turn to WVLT, but its article on the vote was only five sentences; the Knoxville News Sentinel doesn’t appear to have reported on it at all, though it is all over the vote on the state’s new license plate design. If anyone would like the job of Field of Schemes Knoxville council hearing correspondent, please apply in comments.

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Friday roundup: Frank White (yes, that one) ready to talk money for Royals stadium, Bills vaccine veto threat, and more

So! Much! News! This post cannot stop it, it can only hope to contain it:

  • Kansas City Mayor Quinton Lucas and Jackson County Executive Frank White Jr. — yes, that Frank White — say they’re open to talking with Royals officials about a new downtown stadium, which why shouldn’t they, talk is cheap. White said a few years back that he was boycotting the team after they fired him as broadcaster for saying that their sucky players sucked, but now says, “As I have said from day one, we have a responsibility to ensure the county is using the tax dollars entrusted to us by our residents as effectively and efficiently as possible. Part of that responsibility is being open to opportunities to improve the impact our investments are making in the community, including a potential downtown stadium,” so guess he’s over it! We’ll still have to see what “efficiently” means, and if White will be willing to loose his tongue again if Royals owner John Sherman’s financing plan turns out also to suck.
  • The Buffalo Bills stadium campaign has barely gotten started and already has a lot of stupid going on, but the Erie County legislator who is threatening to veto any stadium if the Bills don’t let unvaccinated fans attend games really kicks it over the top — not least because one legislator can’t “veto” anything, especially when the funding the Bills owners are seeking is likely to come from the state, not the county. Leg. Frank Todaro’s bio states that the body-shop owner “has spent his life fixing things that are broken” and “hates waste and is determined to put the Erie County Taxpayer first,” and the hill he has chosen to die on over giving perhaps a billion dollars or so in tax money to the local billionaire sports team owner is whether the billionaire insists on enforcing public health rules, okay then.
  • The leading contenders in the extremely contentious Buffalo mayor’s race, meanwhile, aren’t saying much about the Bills stadium plans because — wait for it — the Bills don’t actually play in the city of Buffalo, and neither candidate wants to spend the money for a stadium in the city, because what part of “perhaps a billion dollars” did you miss?
  • New Mexico United‘s preferred stadium site may be in trouble because part of it would require eminent domain to take from its private owner, and the property owner is claiming in court that the city is getting around this by pretending it’s taking the land for a traffic circle. I mean, a soccer stadium has a circle in the middle, and soccer players are a kind of traffic, and — yeah, this is why I never became a lawyer. Isn’t there somebody the team owners can just pay off to make this problem go away?
  • St. Louis Circuit Judge Christopher McGraugh has rejected a motion by the NFL and Los Angeles Rams owner Stan Kroenke to throw out the city and county of St. Louis’ lawsuit seeking about $100 million in damages for moving the team to L.A. in violation of the league’s own relocation rules. The suit, which has been simmering for four frickin’ years since the last time McGraugh refused to dismiss it, will now move to trial in January, but more important, the league and the Rams only have until September 28 to start turning over internal NFL financial documents for discovery, and “each defendant would be fined $1,000 per day after the deadline if they don’t comply” — I can’t tell if that’s $1,000 each per day for the league and Rams or $1,000 a day for each of the league’s 32 owners, but either way, this should be some fun coming up as the league tries to figure out how to keep its secret books secret.
  • The Knoxville-Knox County Planning Commission has approved rezoning for a new Tennessee Smokies stadium, which isn’t at all the same as the city and county approving $61 million in public money to build the thing, which hasn’t happened yet. But still, it’s a hurdle, so please mark that off as cleared if you’re scoring at home.
  • There’s even more news, but I can get to it next week, it’s not going anywhere. Happy weekend, everybody!
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Tennessee Smokies $74.5m stadium subsidy projections explained, explained

While I was spending yesterday morning fiddling with Patreon — big thanks to everyone who signed up for that already, btw, it was a big enough success that I had to reorder more fridge magnets — the Knoxville News Sentinel did what I am constantly clamoring for news outlets to do, which is to ask the tough questions about a stadium deal and consult with some experts to provide context and analysis. And the News Sentinel brought in two excellent ones, asking University of Colorado economist Geoffrey Propheter and University of Chicago public finance professor Justin Marlowe to vet the projections that a new $74.5 million Tennessee Smokies stadium would actually cost the state and city less than $5 million total, thanks to rising sales tax revenues that would lift all boats by the 10th year of the project.

Unfortunately, the math is pretty involved here, and the News Sentinel’s report isn’t entirely clear about mixing fiscal apples and oranges. So here’s my best attempt at an explainer of their explainer, with an assist from Propheter (who is not responsible for what I am writing below, I just checked in with him on some of the underlying numbers):

How is that $74.5 million stadium price tag supposed to be paid off? As discussed here previously, Tennessee Gov. Mike Lee has allocated $13.5 million in state funds, leaving a $61 million gap. The News Sentinel says that this will cost $3.2 million a year for the city and county to pay off, which would be about a 3.25% interest rate, which, sure, that’s conceivable in this day and age, though not worth betting the farm on.

To make those annual payments, the city and county would get to use $1 million a year in rent payments from Smokies owner Randy Boyd, plus an estimated (more on this in a minute) annual payment in lieu of property taxes of $750,000. That gets us down to about $1.5 million a year remaining. But more than $1 million a year is expected to be paid off by kickbacks of city and county sales taxes from both the stadium itself and a stadium district around it, bringing the total remaining cost to about $480,000 a year. And as sales tax receipts rise, Boyd’s numbers project, that figure will dwindle away to nothing by year 10 of the project.

What do the economics experts say about this? There are a bunch of problems. First off, Boyd’s projected 3% annual rise in sales tax receipts is just a guess — Propheter says a 2.1% annual increase is more reasonable (and even then would require a sizable hike in ticket prices, since the stadium itself isn’t going to grow to include more seats). Marlowe says he’d be more comfortable not assuming any increase in future sales at all.

The bigger issue, though, is that “We won’t have to use tax dollars to pay off the stadium because we can pay it off using sales tax revenues” is, um, kind of insane. Boyd’s argument, no doubt, would be that nobody would be spending money in and around the stadium if the stadium isn’t built, so it’s all free money; both Propheter and Marlowe warn that if Smokies-district spending just ends up substituting for (or “displacing,” as Marlowe calls it) other money that people would have spent elsewhere in the absence of a new stadium, then you just end up cannibalizing sales-tax revenue that the city would otherwise have in its pockets to spend on other things.

Then, there’s that $750,000 annual PILOT payment: Propheter noted (to me, it doesn’t seem to have made it into the News Sentinel article) that since nothing has been built yet on the site let alone assessed, the PILOT could end up being less than what’s projected, leaving a bigger bill for the city and county to pay off.

So what’s the total public cost? Pffft, damned if I can say. If the only guaranteed payment from Boyd is $1 million a year in rent, then that leaves the city and county potentially on the hook for about $2.2 million a year in bond payments, whether that’s from new taxes or old taxes or what. That would come to about $42 million worth of bonds being paid off by the city and county, which is a lot more than less than $5 million. Add in the $13.5 million from the state, and you have as much as $55.5 million in public costs, though the possibility of getting some sales tax money that isn’t cannibalized, plus some PILOT money, should bring it down somewhat below that.

Is that a terrible deal? It all depends on what you mean by “terrible.” It’s less than, say, spending $700 million on an NFL stadium, but on the other hand you’re getting a minor-league baseball team, which isn’t quite as exciting to most sports fans as an NFL franchise. Plus you’re not actually “getting” anything: Knoxville would just be building a stadium so Boyd could move the Smokies a few miles from the next town over, so it’s not like local baseball fans would be getting a new team, or would be missing out if the team didn’t move.

But the point of all the numbers, really, beyond clear plastic binderism, is to cast a haze over the project: If you’re a sports team owner, the next best thing to convincing people that a stadium is a good deal is confusing them about what “a good deal” actually is by making their eyes glaze over at all the math. In that light, I’m not so sure how productive articles like the News Sentinel’s really are — or how productive this post is, even. Maybe I should just stick with a meme of a guy labeled “Knoxville officials” eyeing a woman labeled “stadium spending,” with another woman labeled “other public needs” looking at him in outrage?

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Friday roundup: The correct answer to how much a sports stadium will cost a city is “more”

I’m on the road, so actually writing this on Thursday evening. Don’t blame me if there’s breaking news that I’ve missed! Just post a link in comments, we’ll get to it on Monday.

  • The Jacksonville city council approved $60 million for a new Jaguars “football performance center” on Tuesday, which team president Mark Lamping called “a key first step for the stadium of the future.” That’s a clear signal that Jags owner Shad Khan will be delivering more asks for public money to come, which we already knew because he’s said before that he will, but Lamping declared, “We know that in order to make sure we have NFL football here in Northeast Florida for generations to come, which is what Shad is committed to, we know we’re going to have to have a stadium solution,” just in case anyone hadn’t gotten the memo.
  • The St. Paul city council just approved a $209 million tax increment financing district to kick back future property taxes to developers of land around the Minnesota United soccer stadium. Why, yes, that’s the Minnesota United stadium that got $57 million in tax breaks of its own because it was going to generate so much new development by its very existence, why do you ask?
  • The projected Tennessee Smokies stadium cost has gone up from $75 million to $90 million, because reasons. Smokies owner Randy Boyd is still set to be on the hook for only about $10 million of the cost, so that’s $80 million coming from Tennesseans — unless the price goes up again, construction hasn’t even started yet, don’t forget, so there could be additional “more accurate estimates” to come.
  • Nobody’s going to Baltimore Orioles games because the Baltimore Orioles are terrible, and that’s costing the state of Maryland on its cut of ticket sales and other stadium revenues. You could say that taxpayers shouldn’t have to be on the hook for the O’s terrible baseball management, which is true, but you could also say that if the Orioles do well, the taxpayers who built them their stadium should get a cut of the boodle, which is also true, and you can’t have both, so please pick one complaint and stick with it, your call.
  • New Calgary Flames renderings! Calgary Twitter hates ’em! I don’t have many strong feelings about them, though I am wondering what’s the deal with the woman prostrating herself before a five-year-old out on the sidewalk.

That’s enough for now, have a good weekend!

 

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Knoxville columnist hopes for restaurant boom from new Smokies stadium, sets herself up for massive disappointment

The Knoxville News has been hot on the “new $65 million-ish stadium for the Tennessee Smokies would be great for Knoxville” tip for a while now, but columnist Katherine Whitehead kicked it over the top yesterday with her column on how a new downtown baseball stadium would be a huge boon for downtown restaurants and bars. After declaring herself “a relatively new baseball fan” (the last time she attended a game before this past week, apparently, was in fourth grade), she nonetheless feels comfortable in declaring that having places to go out to eat and drink before and after games would pour new consumer spending into the area around the proposed stadium:

As someone who already spends a lot of time downtown, I could easily convince my friends to join me for food trucks at South Knoxville breweries and drinks on Gay Street rooftops before walking to the baseball stadium. Afterwards, crowds of people would pour out of the game in search of nightcaps and late night grub, giving downtown bars and restaurants plenty of opportunities to bring in business. It’s a win-win for everyone.

This is one of the big arguments for stadium subsidies: It will create more new spending than just in a stadium! And it’s something fairly easy for economists to measure, since all you have to do is look at sales tax receipts for the area around a stadium, or for a city as a whole, and see if they go up, down, or sideways. And economists have done this, so many times that it’s now hard for them to get research money to keep doing so because it’s considered settled science, and time and again have found that there’s no measurable uptick in spending when a city gets a new stadium or arena, or even a new team.

How is this possible? Surely, as Whitehead notes, people going to sporting events will spend tons of money before and after games outside the stadium, right? Isn’t that just how going to see sports works?

The answer is no, not generally — and the problem is, basically, bandwidth. A sporting event is a firehose of people pouring into a neighborhood, usually right after work, and then back out again about three hours later in a rush to get home. Getting them all to sit down and have a drink or a meal sounds like a great idea in theory, but it’s not so great in practice, as one St. Louis restaurateur told me years ago about the then-Rams stadium for an article that never appeared in print because the magazine in question folded right after I’d filed the story:

St. Louis restaurateur Pablo Weiss opened his KitchenK near the St. Louis Rams’ Edward Jones Dome in 2004. “I am a five-minute walk from the stadium, and I am closed on Sunday,” he says. “The games start at noon, so there’s a very short window beforehand, and a lot of people tailgate. After the game, people tend to move on and go home, and the few people left are primarily intoxicated, loud people, which is not a prime business model.”

You can hear similar things from a Brooklyn restaurant owner, in my book The Brooklyn Wars, which has a whole section on the development of the new Nets arena:

Not that capturing an arena audience that only arrives in three-hour bursts is easy, [Patsy’s pizzeria co-owner Joe Juliano] explained: “You have 100 seats, they all want to be fed in one hour. our pizza only takes a minute and a half to cook — that helps.” His partner, the Bensonhurst-born Anton Reja, put down his cigar to chime in: “Between this one, the corner, what’s happening over there, you got six thousand families coming into the neighborhood. But this is not working for everybody. People who are coming to see the game but going to eat, they don’t want to go four blocks away. They want to go fast.”

Stories like these help explain why, when you visit any stadium or arena, you’ll see largely the same thing: A narrow strip of fast-food-oriented shops and sports bars right across the street, and then nothing once you get a block or two away. Unless, that is, you’re in a neighborhood that has 365-days-a-year foot traffic already — but then the sports venue is at best the thin icing on a large existing cake, not a way to generate substantial business on its own.

Plus, you have the old substitution effect problem — even if people are eating dinner out before games, is that dinner money some of them would have spent elsewhere in the city in the absence of a stadium — and the question of whether Knoxville could spend $65 million in a way that would do more for local bar and restaurant owners than firing 10,000 baseball fans at them out of cannon 60 nights a year. Now that might be a “win-win for everyone,” though probably with the exception of the well-connected local rich guy who owns the Smokies, so yeah, best not to mention that in the paper.

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Tennessee approves $22m in Smokies sales tax kickbacks, reducing stadium cost gap to ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

The Tennessee state legislature passed a bill yesterday allowing the city of Knoxville to siphon off local and state sales taxes from a swath of downtown and give them to the Tennessee Smokies owner for a new stadium, otherwise known as tax increment financing, or a TIF. (Actually a STIF in this case, since it involves sales taxes and not just the more usual property-tax siphoning.) This answers our question from a month ago as to what the bill’s chances were in the state senate. (The Senate vote was 27-0 in favor; in the House it was 71-10.)

I’d been referring to the STIF as a $65 million subsidy, but now city and county officials say it would cover “up to 30%” of the estimated $65 million in construction costs, so that’s more like $22 million, tops. There would also be sales tax kickbacks from the stadium itself, which don’t require new legislation, and Tennessee Gov. Mike Lee has allocated $13.5 million in his state budget, while the rest would be paid for by $1 million a year in rent from the team, property-tax kickbacks (i.e., a regular TIF), and the ever-popular “non-property tax revenues of city and county,” which appears to just mean “other public funds, we’ll find it somewhere.”

The run-up to the legislative vote provided lots of opportunities for those stumping for a yes vote — lord knows why they felt the need to with margins like those, but I guess you can never have too big a lead — to present some creative arguments for why spending public money on a minor-league baseball stadium to get a team to move a few miles over would be terrific for Tennessee:

Uncertainties over exactly how the last sliver of stadium costs will be paid for aside, this project definitely appears to be all over but the shouting, especially with all levels of government strongly behind it. That’s kind of disappointing given how just four months ago Knox County’s mayor was saying he would only approve it if it “will not put any additional tax burdens on Knox Countians,” but between the pressure of MLB’s minor-league contraction scheme and the Smokies being owned by the local rich guy who is also president of the local state university, this one was probably in the bag from the start.

 

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Tennessee senator says Knoxville stadium would cannibalize tax money, mayor replies “But it’s newwww!”

The Tennessee Smokies stadium sales tax increment financing bill, which would siphon off $65 million in future sales taxes to build a new stadium in downtown Knoxville for a minor-league baseball team to local rich guy Randy Boyd, took another step forward last night, passing the state house’s finance committee. The night before that, though, the bill got a hearing in the state senate ways and means committee, and there was a bit of a dust-up over exactly how tax increment financing works:

[State Senator Bo] Watson expressed concerns the develop would encourage local people, those who already shop and dine in the region, to go to the new site instead, and bring less revenue to the state.

“Minor league baseball is more regional. So people who are coming to the games now, they’re eating at restaurants that the state is now collecting sales tax on. You’re going to simply transfer them to one area to another area, so at the end of the day the state loses tax dollars because we’re collecting even less in this zone than we would be collecting if they were in the other part of the city,” Watson said.

That’s the substitution effect, even if Watson didn’t quite explain it as clearly as he might have. (The idea in a nutshell: If you just substitute sales tax collections in one place for collections in another place, that doesn’t actually leave you with extra money to hand out to the Invisible Fence guy.) It too often gets overlooked in development deals, so it’s nice to see someone raising it as an issue here.

Knox County Mayor Glenn “Kane” Jacobs, though, had an answer for Watson’s argument:

“It’s one of the most prime locations in Knox County. It produces no money in sales tax. No money whatsoever. So whatever that it does produce will be an increase,” Mayor Jacobs said.

Um, no. I mean, yes, the stadium site itself would produce more tax revenue, but that’s not the same as saying the state would get more tax revenue overall — especially when the Smokies would just be moving from the suburbs to the city. The only way it would increase state tax revenue would be if more people came to visit from out of state, which is certainly possible, but $65 million worth of people? That would require a study, but admittedly it’s far easier just to point at a plot of land and say, “Empty! Let’s make it not-empty!” and leave it at that.

I wish I could tell you more about the bill’s chances in the state senate, but aside from a quote from the TIF district bill’s sponsor, Sen. Becky Duncan Massey, that the stadium would be a “transformational economic development project,” the local news outlets don’t have much on what the other 36 senators think. (Republicans hold a 30-8 advantage in the chamber, but Watson, Jacobs, and Massey are all Republicans, so this clearly isn’t breaking down along partisan lines.) I’ll see what I can do to find out more; in the meantime, if anyone wants to be Field of Schemes’ Tennessee legislative correspondent, let me know.

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Knoxville council asks state to siphon off $65m in sales taxes to pay for Smokies stadium

The Knoxville city council voted 8-1 last night to ask the state legislature to create a sales tax increment financing district to siphon off state and local sales taxes from a swath of downtown and put them toward paying off a $65 million Tennessee Smokies stadium.

And … really, that’s about all I’ve got on this one, given that the only news outlet that seems to have reported on the council vote seems to be the dreaded WBIR. How big a swath of downtown? Has anyone done a study to confirm that the sales-tax money would actually be new revenue, and not just taxes on spending relocated from elsewhere in the city or state? (Moving baseball spending from the Knoxville suburbs to downtown Knoxville seems an especially zero-sum prospect for state legislators, whose approval is required for this plan.) What are the plan’s prospects in the legislature? And so on.

I’m getting tired of posts here that just complain about how bad local news reporting has gotten, as I’m sure you have too, but sometimes that’s the only option — I don’t have the resources to independently research every sports subsidy deal ongoing right now, though I’ll see what more I can find out about this one. I’m deeply concerned about how the gutting of journalism is making it impossible for democracy to function, because it’s increasingly hard for anyone to tell what even to call their elected representatives to yell at them about. And no, the rise of a few Substack celebrity pundits isn’t going to help much with getting city council hearings covered properly.

Anyway, tl;dr: Handing over $65 million in tax money to the University of Tennessee’s president/invisible dog fence plutocrat took another step closer to reality last night. All else is ¯_(ツ)_/¯.

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Friday roundup: A’s stadium goes lopsided, another Cali soccer stadium stalls, plus how to skip rent payments and use them to fix up your own home

I’m very busy this morning, busy enough that one entire news item will have to wait till Monday when I can give it its due, but that means an extra post on Monday, so what are you complaining about, really? Anyway, there’s still plenty of stadium and arena news from this week, let’s have at it:

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Friday roundup: Miami ripped off again by Loria, Rays roof removal proposed, America’s journalists snookered

I’ll keep this short today, in deference to any Texas readers who may be trying to save battery life thanks to that state’s power outages. Once your bandwidth is back, here’s a good reminder from the New York Times that climate change is expected to cause unseasonable cold snaps and winter storms as well as insane summer heat, so you have lots more of both to look forward to. Or, if you prefer, here’s an article on a similar theme from the Village Voice a few years back that I wrote a much snappier headline for.

Stadiums, right, that’s what you came here to read about! Let’s see what we’ve got:

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