Cincinnati totally needs to spend $500m on new arena, say companies that build arenas

We spend a lot of time here looking at ways wealthy sports team owners lobby for public spending on new stadiums and arenas to make themselves richer, or at least give them fancier places to entertain their friends and make their competitors jealous, as one does. But then there are the cases where the sports-industrial complex takes on a mind of its own and demands subsidies for buildings that no team in particular stands to benefit from, on the general principle that all the other kids are doing it, so it must make sense.

One can usually depend on local chambers of commerce to lead the charge for public money to be used for this kind of thing, and sure enough, that’s who’s pushing for Cincinnati to spend around half a billion dollars on a new arena:

“What became clear through our work is that our region is an epicenter of cultural vibrancy, music, art, and sports in the Midwest,” said Brendon Cull, President & CEO of the Cincinnati Regional Chamber. ” In terms of assets, we are missing one key component: a modern arena. Our study makes clear that the opportunity before us is more concerts, more sporting events, more family entertainment, and more comedians that contribute to growth in population, the economy, and cultural vibrancy in our region.”…

“The results of this study mark a significant advancement in the ongoing conversation about the necessity for a state-of-the-art modern arena for Greater Cincinnati,” said Bill Baker, Vice President & Managing Partner of MSA Sport. “By being located in Cincinnati’s vibrant urban core, a new arena will attract more visitors and events, spur additional investment in the city, and further enhance our great region.”

Okay, there’s not no self-interest at work here: MSA Sport would be in line to design and build a new arena, so clearly they have their own reasons to want to drum up business. Other names on the study are the Machete Group, Turner Construction, and Populous, all big names in the sports construction world. (They say they consulted with the owners of the Cincinnati Cyclones minor-league hockey team, who have “expressed a willingness” to partner on the project if the city brings its checkbook; FC Cincinnati owner Jeff Berding has been hot for a new arena for years now as well, though it’s not clear if he thinks he could get operating rights to one or what.) The report’s authors argue that if the city puts up 70% of the money toward a $675 million–$800 million arena project, it could reap $829,000 a year in new tax revenues, which would only amount to a $30 million a year or so annual loss — hey, nobody said they were big names in math.

The study also includes a list of musical acts that toured nearby in recent years but skipped Cincinnati, with the clear implication that it’s because their arena is a dump:

Build a new arena, and Elton John will come! Or, well, maybe not, but somebody will, and who can put a price on that? Sure, pointy-headed economists probably, but who wants to listen to them when there are arena contractors with such nice clear plastic binders?

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Friday roundup: Jackson County counteroffers different $300m toward Royals stadium, Pinellas County passed on Rays naming rights money

Well, this was certainly another week. It’s tempting to say that all the other continuing disasters going on put into perspective the relative importance of worrying about shoveling a few billion dollars at billionaires — but then, injustices are injustices, and it sure doesn’t seem like the big problems are going away anytime soon, so we’d better be able to multitask if we want to address any of them anytime soon. (Ha ha, anyone who’s read this site or lived in the world should know from experience that no one is going to address anything ever no matter how big or small, that was just a little joke between us.)

We’ll always have schadenfreude, though, so away we go with the week’s news roundup:

  • Jackson County Executive Frank White has submitted a counterproposal to Kansas City Royals owner John Sherman on a new stadium: Instead of the county giving Sherman $300 million in sales tax proceeds over 40 years, what if it gave Sherman $300 million in money from some unspecified source over 20 years? That sounds significantly worse to me, and probably to anyone else who’s ever decided between a short-term and long-term mortgage, but White says “our counterproposal was grounded in Jackson County’s responsibility to not just meet the County’s preset needs but also to safeguard our future,” and if you can’t trust a former Royals second baseman, who can you trust?
  • Pinellas County Administrator Barry Burton says the county “thought about” asking for a cut of naming rights or for ticket taxes to be used to help pay for a new $1.3 billion Tampa Bay Rays stadium that is projected to cost the public more than $600 million, but decided “simpler is better.” Burton added, “I can assure you, the ask [from the Rays] was far greater,” which at least shows that one side in these talks understand the principle of “if you don’t ask, you don’t get it” that was first pointed out by … Gandhi? Really, internet? I’m flagging this one for the fact-checker.
  • A poll of 82 Oklahoma City residents — okay, that’s a pathetic sample size, but let’s just go with it — found that they opposed extending a 1% sales tax surcharge to pay for a new $900 million Thunder arena by a 53-22% margin. This actually matters because OKC voters will get to decide on the arena plan in a December 12 referendum, but it’s still early yet, nobody’s unloaded the truckloads of lobbyists.
  • FC Cincinnati co-CEO Jeff Berding has his new publicly funded soccer stadium now, but wants the city to build a new arena as well because — oh wait, we covered this already a year and a half ago, Berding is just using his positions as chair of the local tourism board and local business board to get the Cincinnati Enquirer to let him stump for his pet project. “Think of the economic impact for Taylor Swift for two nights,” Berding told the Enquirer, which utterly failed to check whether Taylor Swift’s economic impact is really all that much, but it also failed to check whether “Not re-doing the arena is costing Cincinnati national cache” is really spelled like that, so maybe this entire article should be taken as a cry for help from the tattered remnants of Gannett.
  • People in D.C. want the former RFK Stadium site to be parks, an amateur sports complex, a skateboard park, “a whole new city [called] ‘Justice City’,” and probably other things as well at a community meeting on the subject, while “a survey showed that 67% of those questioned said they did not want a new stadium to replace RFK.” Washington Commanders owner Josh Harris is presumably part of the other 33%, but then, he lives in a mansion in Miami with 10.5 bathrooms, so presumably isn’t eligible to be surveyed.
  • Black Clergy of Philadelphia and Vicinity have announced their support for the proposed Philadelphia 76ers arena on the border of the city’s Chinatown, pointing to the $50 million community benefits agreement team owner Josh Harris has promised, plus promises to have Black-owned businesses run 40% of the concessions operations at the arena. The Black clergy group also backed Harris’s last arena plan before that one fell apart, at least they’re consistent about their price.
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FC Cincy owner says new arena won’t require new taxes, though he hasn’t actually studied it yet

Cincinnati is considering building a new basketball and hockey arena? At the behest of Jeff Berding, co-owner of its soccer team, F.C. Cincinnati? Apparently yes and yes, but while this raises a lot of questions, I’m afraid we will only have time today to investigate one of them, which is: Who would be paying for this exactly?

“There doesn’t need to be a tax increase to do this. There doesn’t,” Berding said. “However … that’s the whole point of having an independent study. It includes a financing plan. There’s government dollars. There’s also private dollars that can go into these things.”

Okay, so: No “tax increase,” but “government dollars.” That implies using some existing stream of tax revenues ($300 million worth, according to the last time this was proposed back in 2018), which otherwise could be spent on something else (thus reducing the need for new taxes to pay for the something else) or returned to taxpayers (and missing out on a tax refund is effectively the same thing as an additional tax). Unless maybe Berding thinks he can get federal infrastructure dollars for a new arena, since that’s worked out so well elsewhere? Who knows! (It’s always fun, incidentally, to see sports spending proponents choose between “no new taxes” pledges and “no diversion of existing budget” ones, even though one precludes the other if public money is going to have to come from somewhere.)

But Berding didn’t go into detail because, as he noted, there has been no independent study of costs or financing, though he would like the city of Cincinnati and Hamilton County to conduct one, since he sure isn’t going to do one on his dime. So how does he know how one would turn out?

“I’ve seen enough high-level financing models that suggest there doesn’t need to be a tax increase.”

Well then!

For those in need of a scorecard, Cincinnati’s current arena was built in 1975 and is home to the Cincinnati Cyclones minor-league hockey team, though it’s probably best known as the site of the 1979 Who concert disaster. Berding, meanwhile, is a Bengals executive who shepherded that team’s sales-tax-funded stadium to approval, then somehow served three terms on the city council while still working for the Bengals, then retired from politics before eventually going in with his boss on starting a new MLS team and getting a stadium built for it — one that Berding similarly promised would require no new taxes, and which ultimately cost taxpayers at least $81 million. I don’t know why you would question the secret financing models in this guy’s mind, he clearly has tons of expertise at something, even if the something he’s got isn’t good.

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Friday roundup: Why Pistons fans can’t bear to watch, Broncos land grab move, Donald Trump could win Morocco the World Cup, and more!

All evidence to the contrary, spring (and the spring end-of-legislative-session season) must be getting nearer, because the stack of weekly roundup news items in my Instapaper is getting longer and longer each week. Better get down to it:

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Cincy may lack cash for MLS stadium because it has too many other sports venues to subsidize

About 100 F.C. Cincinnati fans attended a Hamilton County Commission meeting last night to urge the commission to spend $100 million on a new soccer stadium for the USL team, which is hoping to land an MLS expansion franchise. County Commission President Todd Portune, however, told them that “we have more projects than we have money,” with the county facing $1.5 billion in pending capital projects. Like, the county jail is overcrowded and needs expansion, and a new waterfront development project is still mostly undeveloped, and, um:

The city’s two current major league sports teams — the Reds and the Bengals — will eventually come knocking on the county’s door for a new deal. The Bengals stadium lease with the county expires in 2026 with the Reds’ lease expiring a few years after. Combined, the two stadiums could need more than $200 million in upgrades within the next decade.

“While no one is talking about demoing these stadiums, we know there will be substantial maintenance (needs),” [Hamilton County Administrator Jeff] Alutto said.

Those leases running out are worth planning ahead for, I suppose, but it’s still a little worrisome that Hamilton County is already budgeting for stadium renovation “needs” that the teams haven’t even asked for yet. Apparently either somebody hasn’t gotten the memo that it’s okay to demand that taxpayers not take a bath on stadium projects, or else Hamilton County leaders think that Cincinnati has less leverage to keep its teams without bribing them to stay, which, okay, maybe.

That said, the rest of the county’s wish list includes a $230 million convention center expansion and a $342 million rebuild of the city’s arena, neither of which exactly seems like a “need” per se. If the only choice for Hamilton County is which dumb project for private profit to sink public money into, I can sort of see why soccer fans would feel justified in saying, “Us first!” Too bad overcrowded prisoners don’t have fan clubs.

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County officials: No big money for Cincy MLS or arena redo, but maybe tax breaks or something

Hamilton County commissioners continue to make unhappy noises about funding either a new FC Cincinnati stadium or a renovation of Cincinnati’s arena, saying they have a lot of priorities other than new sports facilities right now:

All three commissioners are wary of repeating the mistakes they say county and city officials made more than 20 years ago, when new stadiums for the Bengals and Reds saddled county taxpayers with huge financial obligations.

“We’ve all lived to regret that,” said Commissioner Todd Portune.

Fellow Commissioner Chris Monzel said building stadiums, including the two the county already owns, shouldn’t be the business of county government.

“We have two facilities already,” he said. “That’s two too many.”

That’s pretty cut and dried, then, and—

The commissioners did not, however, rule out the possibility of helping proponents of a new arena and soccer stadium, even if they don’t approve a large public investment. While putting a higher sales tax on the ballot is the most likely way to raise big money, the county and city could pursue more modest measures, such as donating land, granting tax breaks or seeking help from state and federal grants.

So it appears the commissioners just don’t want to own a new stadium, but they’re maybe open to giving it public money? Or, more likely, they’re sending a signal that $100 million is a lot of money, and raising the sales tax just to renovate an arena that only really needs minor upgrades is a little nuts, but maybe ask for less and we’ll consider it. Which could be a reasonable “let’s not close any doors” approach, or could be a way to tell constituents that they’re not throwing money down any more stadium holes while secretly considering doing just that, or a combination of the two.

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Cincy arena owner: NCAA wants snazzier locker rooms, might as well tear the whole place down

The NCAA has awarded a round of its 2022 basketball tournament to Cincinnati, for the first time in 30 years. Yay, Cincinnati! But this is conditional on Hamilton County making $200 million in upgrades to its arena. Boo, NCAA! But actually the NCAA’s upgrade demands aren’t that major or costly, it’s just the arena’s owner/operator who’s trying to leverage this into a major upgrade:

U.S. Bank Arena needs to add two locker rooms and greatly expand media space below the seating area if it’s going to host the first- and second-round games, Ray Harris, CEO of Nederlander Entertainment, which operates and is majority owner of the arena, told me on Wednesday…

Harris is shooting to make those changes as part of a planned massive overhaul of U.S. Bank Arena that would likely cost anywhere from $200 million to $350 million, he said.
“We’d certainly advocate the major renovation that addresses what the NCAA needs and provides additional amenities as opposed to losing events,” Harris said. “That’s certainly our hope. We think this is a great time to address all the shortcomings of this facility. It would put Cincinnati on the map to be competitive with all the major cities around us.”

Well, sure, you’d advocate that the city chip in on $200 million to $350 million of upgrades to your arena, rather than just adding two locker rooms and some media space. And what would that greater renovation entail, exactly?

[Harris] said Wednesday that the current plan to prepare for the 2022 NCAA men’s basketball championship includes tearing down the arena and building a new, larger arena in its place.

Okay, then!

Some backstory: Harris has been proposing a major overhaul of the arena for two years now, with the minor snag that he wants the county to help pay for it, and after coughing up big bucks for new stadiums for the Reds and the Bengals, spending nine figures on an arena whose highest-profile tenants is a minor-league hockey team isn’t exactly likely to be a priority. But if it’s about making the NCAA happy, and “putting Cincinnati on the map” — hey, sure, maybe somebody will buy it. Not anyone on the county commission, admittedly — commissioner Todd Portune replied yesterday, “Go do it. It’s your arena. We’ll be happy to help with permits and zoning, but don’t think that the county has a pot of money over here that we’re waiting to make available” — but maybe somebody somewhere.

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AEG asks Cincinnati to help pay for $200 million renovation of arena, no one laughs for some reason

Show of hands: Did you even know that Cincinnati had a basketball and hockey arena? It hasn’t had an NBA team since the Royals moved to Kansas City in 1972, and major-league hockey since the Stingers went away with the folding of the WHA in 1979. But it still has the U.S. Bank Arena, built in 1975 as the Riverfront Coliseum, and probably best known as the reason we don’t have general admission rock shows anymore.

Anyway, the arena is, according to its LinkedIn page, “a first-class, state-of-the-art venue,” and

U.S. Bank Arena’s owners unveiled a plan Tuesday morning that showed how long-anticipated and extensive renovations could support the Downtown venue’s future.

Right, that’s what I meant, it needs $200 million in renovations to gut the place and add luxury suites and “revitalize downtown Cincinnati” and all that. Because after all, reports the Cincinnati Enquirer, “The 40-year-old arena has not undergone a major renovation since 1997”! Can’t be having that!

The arena is co-owned by theater operators Nederlander Entertainment and venue mega-managers AEG, neither of whom have said anything about how this major renovation will be paid for, though the Enquirer reports that “taxpayers will be asked to pay at least part of the bill for any improvements.” This wouldn’t necessarily be bad if taxpayers also got a share of arena revenues to help repay their investment, but something tells me that’s not what Nederlander and AEG are thinking.

Anyway, one hopes that Cincinnati and Hamilton County officials will drive a hard bargain here, and — oh, who are we kidding, this is Cincinnati. Once your elected officials have bought into the notion that having concerts in the same place with nicer cupholders is going to “revitalize” your downtown, all hope is lost. Unless you get some different elected officials.

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