Friday roundup: Rays to play 2025 in Tampa, and other things to make people mad

The verdict is in for where the Tampa Bay Rays will play the 2025 season while waiting for their roof to be (probably) repaired, and the answer is: Steinbrenner Field in Tampa, spring-training home of the New York Yankees and rest-of-the-time home of the Tampa Tarpons. I’m going to go ahead and call this a fine enough decision: The stadium holds 11,000 people, not too far off of the Rays’ average 2024 attendance of 16,515; as a spring training site, it has major-league amenities; and it’s still in the Tampa Bay region, so Rays fans won’t have to drive across the state or the country to get to games. Plus, there are multiple fields on the site, so there’s no worry about schedule conflicts, since the Tarpons can just play on one of the back fields while the Rays take over the main one.

Of course, it’s also not in Pinellas County, which is already ticking off Pinellas County commissioners who already held up a vote on approving bonds for a new Rays stadium last month amid concern that the team might play elsewhere for a season or three. Commissioner Chris Latvala, who voted against the stadium deal in July, called the decision “unfortunate,” saying, “there’s going to be over $1 billion public funds dedicated from Pinellas residents to the Tampa Bay Rays, and the thank you that the Rays gave them was to play the games across the bridge in Hillsborough County.” Commissioner Rene Flowers, meanwhile, who voted for the deal in July, told the Tampa Bay Times she’s now not sure if she’ll change her vote, saying, “I’m waiting to see how it looks for us financially” — spoilers, Rene, it still looks just as bad as it did then.

And then there’s this tidbit:

The Yankees will receive about $15 million in revenue for hosting the Rays, a person familiar with the arrangement told The Associated Press, speaking on condition of anonymity because that detail was not announced. The money won’t come from Tampa Bay but from other sources, such as insurance.

Um, Associated Press, you drunk posting? First off, “Tampa Bay” is not a government entity, it’s a collection of disparate municipalities and counties, so who isn’t the money coming from, exactly? And “such as insurance” is both awfully vague and puzzlingly specific, as the only insurance policy that’s been discussed is that held by the city of St. Petersburg, which is already committed to paying for a chunk of the estimated $55 million cost of repairing the Tropicana Field roof.

Still many questions, in other words. Anyone else want to chime in?

“I’ll be excited to set a record for rain delays in a season,” Rays reliever and union player rep Pete Fairbanks said.

And as for the week’s other news:

  • Orlando’s stadium formerly known as the Citrus Bowl is set to get $400 million in county-funded renovations, something that Orlando mayor-for-life Buddy Dyer first proposed last year and which the county gave preliminary approval to back in January. The money would come from the “tourist development tax” — the same pool of hotel-tax money that Pinellas County is currently debating whether to hand over to the Rays — which according to the authorizing legislation can be used for building stadiums, or building auditoriums, or funding aquariums or museums or zoos or beaches or advertising tourism or a whole lot of other things, so long as the purpose is to get more tourists coming to your county. It’s actually somewhat difficult to argue that renovating a stadium that hosts a handful of college football games each year in order to make it “fully symmetrical” is what’s needed in order to encourage tourists to go to freaking Orlando, but this is what the county commission is being asked to vote on in the next couple of weeks, with a straight face.
  • A report by consultant Econsult Solutions Inc. commissioned by the city of Cleveland claims that the Browns leaving downtown would cost the city $30 million in annual economic activity and $11 million in annual tax revenue, which on the face of it doesn’t make any sense since Cleveland doesn’t have any taxes that are at 36.7%. A quick look at the report itself doesn’t reveal any more methodological details, except that Econsult apparently calculated its estimate that Cleveland would lose 29% of Browns-related spending by dividing the population of the city by the population of Cuyahoga County, LOLconsultants.
  • Personal seat license prices at the new Tennessee Titans stadium are in some cases going up from $750 per seat to $10,000 a seat, and season ticket holders are not pleased. But at least the PSL money will help pay off the public’s $1.2 billion share of the construction — oh, what’s that, the seat license money is entirely going to pay off team owner Amy Adams Strunk’s share of the costs? The Hog Mollies didn’t mention that part!
  • The city of Oakland’s sale of its half of the Oakland Coliseum site to private developers is on hold, apparently because Alameda County is dragging its feet on the transfer of its half of the site which it had previously sold to A’s owner John Fisher. No, that doesn’t make sense to me either, it looks to involve a lawsuit in progress charging that the sale violates the state’s Surplus Land Act requiring that public land first be offered up for development as affordable housing — similar objections were raised about the Los Angeles Angels deal, you may remember, but that fell apart before it was ever resolved, so who knows what’ll happen here.
  • One long-rumored stadium site the Kansas City Royals definitely won’t be moving to is the old K.C. Star building, because it’s being converted into an “AI innovation facility.” A local wine bar owner called this “not the most exciting thing for the neighborhood” but at least a plan that wouldn’t require displacing local businesses, which is probably about right.
  • Diamond Sports Group, aka Bally Sports aka FanDuel Sports, has emerged from bankruptcy reorganization, with lots of consequences for the MLB, NBA, and NHL teams it formerly provided cable broadcasts of. ESPN has a rundown, but the main takeaway is that a bunch of teams are going to getting less TV money than they expected, which will effect everything from their player budgets to the relative importance of market size in terms of team profitability, while fans will get some new options including the ability to do pay-per-view of single games for a mere (?) $7 a pop. More on this as more dominoes fall, maybe, or check Marc Normandin’s Marvin Miller’s Mustache newsletter later this morning, if I know him he’ll be weighing in on this.
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Friday roundup: Everyone’s building soccer stadiums, no one’s sure how to pay for them

This was a rough week for anyone in the U.S. who is an immigrant or looks like they might be, is trans, might ever need an abortion, is Palestinian, is a federal government employee, is a local government employee, is an employee of anything that depends on international trade, lives near sea level or in places that get hot or are at risk of hurricanes, likes democracy, or cares about a relative, friend, or neighbor who does. Not that it would have been an amazing week for most of those people if the presidential election results had gone another way, but a whole lot of folks are somewhere on the spectrum from anxious to terrified right now, so if you need to check in with each other right now before getting back to life as we know it, that’s not only reasonable, it’s a fine tradition.

And now, whenever you’re ready, back to sports stadium and arena life as we know it:

  • The owners of Sacramento Republic F.C., who now include the Wilton Rancheria Native American tribe by are still led by minority owner Kevin Nagle, announced plans for a new stadium, and almost none of the news coverage bothered to provide details of how it would be paid for, even those that reported on how it was announced to the tune of “Don’t Stop Believin’.” Finally, way at the bottom of a KCRA-TV report, we learn that the city of Sacramento is expected to put up $92 million in infrastructure money from property taxes on 220 acres surrounding the stadium, plus provide free police, fire, EMS, traffic, and other services for the next ten years. The city council is set to vote on the plan Tuesday, so that leaves three whole days to gather feedback, two of which are weekend days and the third is a holiday when city offices are closed, this is fine.
  • Bridgeport is considering a minor-league soccer stadium that would cost at least $75 million and which would likely include public funds, and Baltimore is considering a minor-league soccer stadium with no known price tag or details on how to pay for it, and Fort Wayne is considering a minor-league soccer stadium that is promised will be “100% privately financed” but we’ve heard that before.
  • Cleveland and Cuyahogo County are continuing to look for ways to fill their budget gap for paying for future upgrades for the Guardians and Cavaliers, and county executive Chris Ronayne says options are “not yet concrete” because “it’s a conversation that’s probably also going to have to include the public.” Signal Cleveland speculates that this could include going back to voters to approve another tax increase, unless Clevelanders go back to drinking and smoking at their old rates, which might not be as likely as you would think.
  • Nearly 95% of campaign donations by U.S. sports team owners went to Republican candidates or causes, according to a Guardian review of donor filings, which, duh, Charles Barkley could have told you that.
  • How are Inglewood business owners around the Los Angeles Rams‘ new stadium and Los Angeles Clippers‘ new arena loving all the new foot traffic? Not so much! “One of my lowest sales days was on Super Bowl Sunday” because of street closures, said a local bakery owner at a press conference this week. “I literally made under $600 for the day. I had to send employees home, and you’re just looking around like, ‘What in the world?'” Checks out!
  • Did a major news site just run an item reporting wild economic impact projections for a proposed Buffalo soccer stadium without saying who conducted the study, while the byline partly credits a City Hall press release? Sure did! Please give to support your independent nonprofit or collectively owned news media, we might just be needing them the next year or four.
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Friday roundup: A’s exec says Fisher really does have Vegas stadium money (no, you can’t see it)

Before we get to the bullet points, and I know how much you all love the bullet points, there is pressing news we have to discuss first, which is that Athletics owner John Fisher has the billion-dollars-plus he needs to build a stadium in Las Vegas. Sort of. Maybe. According to a guy:

Athletics owner John Fisher and his family will invest $1 billion into the construction of a stadium in Las Vegas and U.S. Bank and Goldman Sachs will offer a $300 million loan, club executive Sandy Dean said Thursday.

Dean made his remarks to a special meeting of the Las Vegas Stadium Authority board.

Dean said four letters will be presented at the Dec. 5 authority meeting asserting construction details and financing will be in place. Final approvals are expected to be made at that meeting to allow construction of the $1.5 billion, 30,000-seat domed ballpark with a capacity for up to 33,000 fans.

So it’s official: Fisher has financing in place for his Vegas stadium … well, no, he will have financing in place by December … or he’ll have a letter (or four) stating that financing is in place?

[One] letter, Dean said, asserts the Fisher and his family have the ability to meet their financial commitment. Dean said [another] letter from U.S. Bank will show that through a review of the owner’s finances that it “concludes the Fisher family has more than sufficient resources to fund the equity investment that’s required to build the stadium.”

Except! Here’s video of Dean saying that one of the letters will be “from John Fisher indicating that his family will invest a billion dollars in support of the project here in Las Vegas.” So which is it: Is the Fisher family committing to spend $1 billion on a Vegas stadium, or just avowing that it  is worth $1 billion? We already knew the latter — Vegas convention center authority chief and unregistered A’s lobbyist Steve Hill keeps saying it, among other things — but that’s not the same as actually figuring out what the family would liquidate to pay for the stadium: the San Jose Earthquakes? The Gap?.

(Dean also said Fisher is still looking to sell minority shares of the team at inflated prices because “it would be good coming to Las Vegas to have outside partners from Las Vegas,” but not because he needs the money, oh no: “The ability to finance the stadium is independent of that.”)

The question all this keeps coming back to isn’t “Where can a billionaire find a billion dollars?” but rather “Is the Fisher family ready to throw a billion dollars of its own money down a stadium hole?” The number of stadiums that can cover their own construction costs is slim; the number that have done so that are in their leagues’ smallest market and include a pricey dome is zero. Which is why people are eager to see Fisher put actual money on the table; promises of a letter next month that will maybe describe actual money on the table is not quite the same thing.

Sorry if all that was anticlimactic. And now, this week’s bullet points:

  • Ohio Attorney General Dave Yost wants to intervene in the Cleveland Brownslawsuit against the city of Cleveland seeking to block the use of the Art Modell Law to block the team from moving to a new stadium in Brook Park. Yost says the team’s claim that the law, which requires that teams be offered up for sale to local owners before being relocated from their current home city, is “unconstitutionally vague” is “wrong,” and since Browns owners Jimmy and Dee Haslam only sued the city, he needed to file a motion to intervene on behalf of the state. Feel the excitement!
  • Philadelphia councilmember Mark Squilla may have come down in favor of letting the 76ers owners build an arena next door to Chinatown, but he has an idea for ensuring that the neighborhood isn’t disrupted: a zoning overlay to “require affordable housing, restrictions on types of businesses, and limits on the size of new storefronts to discourage chain restaurants from crowding out traditional Chinatown retail,” in the words of the Philadelphia Inquirer. Adds the Inquirer: “The precise language mandating how any of this would work has yet to be added to the bill.” This is on top of proposing a tax increment financing district to kick taxes collected in Chinatown back to local businesses to offset any rise in rents as the result of increased property values — pretty sure that would only risk encouraging landlords to increase rents more knowing businesses would be getting subsidies to help pay them, need to go back and check my Intro to Economics textbook chapter on microeconomics.
  • The World Series is over and I didn’t get around to discussing the New York City Economic Development Corporation’s claim that each Yankees and Mets home playoff game generated $20-25 million in economic activity, but suffice to say I talked to an EDC spokesperson who told me (on background, so I’m not supposed to quote them directly so I’m not) that the analysis was based off a previous model from 2022 that puts together assumptions from the city tourism board plus assumptions from the Yankees and then applies a multiplier. Also, they look at “anonymized cell phone data”? No, you and I are not allowed to see the actual model, so no further details about WTF this means will be available.
  • Spotlight on America has a piece on how Tempe, Arizona said no to funding an Arizona Coyotes arena and how other cities could follow its lead, which is all well and good until it concludes by lauding late Seattle Seahawks owner Paul Allen for his commitment to Seattle, when Allen actually paid the city to hold a referendum so he could get $300 million in public money for a football stadium, then refused to open his books like he promised in exchange for the money, seriously, what?
  • Perhaps you would prefer a deep dive into the toilets at the Los Angeles Clippers‘ new arena? Perhaps you would prefer I hadn’t phrased it that way? Sorry, you’re getting both!

 

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Friends don’t let friends read economic impact consulting reports

The clowning on the CSL International economic impact report claiming a pile of tax revenue benefits from a new Philadelphia 76ers arena continues today, this time in the pages of the Philadelphia Inquirer. The paper spoke to economists J.C. Bradbury and Geoffrey Propheter and real estate professor Arthur Acolin, and the resulting comments were about what you’d expect if you’ve ever spent five minutes talking to sports economists about CSL and its ilk:

“The study is completely useless,” said Geoffrey Propheter, a professor of public affairs at the University of Colorado-Denver and the author of Major League Sports and the Property Tax. “That’s not a commentary on if it’s done well or not. That’s just a commentary on economic impact studies.”

And:

J.C. Bradbury, an economist at Kennesaw State University, called the CSL report a “concocted PR document” and said the firm was “notorious for doing these for-hire projections for paying clients” that fly in the face of “academic consensus.”

“There is nothing credible here,” Bradbury said. “These are not rigorous studies of observed outcomes; they are fanciful forecasts of an imagined future.”

And:

[Propheter] pointed to a disclaimer at the beginning of the report, which states, “All information provided to us was not audited and was assumed to be correct based on our professional judgement and experience.”

“I always get a kick out of them,” Propheter said of those types of statements.

And:

Arthur Acolin, a real estate professor at the University of Washington who has studied the trajectory of Chinatowns in cities across the U.S. … found that the displacement of nearby businesses and residents caused by the arena project could cost as much as $908 million in lost tax revenue. (Like the Sixers, Acolin’s paper used nominal values, meaning the $908 million finding is comparable to the nearly $1.1 billion tax revenue gain reported by CSL.)

“As part of the public discussion, I was thinking about the people who are currently there and the businesses that are currently there,” he said. “Those neighborhoods on the margins of downtown are very vulnerable to changes. A small change in environment can make the difference of being in business and being out of business.”

None of this is surprising, but it’s all still useful to have in the pages of a major news site, since all too often actual economists only appear briefly at the end of articles laying out the consultants’ BS findings. (Points to the Inquirer for using an actual photo of the proposed arena site, too, rather than the team owner’s vaportecture renderings.) Which is the entire point of the BS findings: It’s not to try to come up with realistic cost-benefit figures for a stadium or arena project — CSL doesn’t reveal who worked on its Philadelphia report, but the lead officer for its Frisco office, which is credited for the report, is a guy with a bachelor’s degree in finance — but rather to flood the zone with fancy charts in hopes that no one will look too hard at whether any of it makes any damn sense. It’ll be a great day when actual economic studies get all the space they need in the newspapers, and sports team owners have to hold a bake sale to get anyone to read their bogus numbers.

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Clown study claims Philadelphia can too support two arenas, no really it’ll be great honest

Philadelphia Mayor Cherelle Parker released the city’s studies of a new 76ers arena on the edge of Chinatown yesterday, including an economic impact report by everybody’s favorite LOLconsultants, CSL. And what does that study, confusingly dated “July 2024” which it hasn’t been for a while now, say?

KEY TAKEAWAY: CSL estimates the Philadelphia CBSA, with the presence of a second major league arena, could host 53 ANNUAL INCREMENTAL TICKETED EVENTS and generate approximately 613,000 ATTENDEES.

So if Philadelphia had two arenas instead of one, it would get an additional 53 non-Sixers and –Flyers events (35 concerts, 15 “family shows,” and 3 other sporting events) compared to what it does now. CSL calculated this by looking at the average number of events hosted by arenas in cities with one venue vs. those in cities with two — which seemingly doesn’t account for the fact that cities with more arenas tend to be larger, and so should expect to host more events anyway. It would make more sense to look at how many more events, if any, Philly had back when it had two arenas, before the Spectrum was torn down and turned into a parking lot because the Flyers owners figured it would be more lucrative that way, but LOLconsultants.

(The report did look at the increase in events in New York City and Dallas-Fort Worth when new arenas were built, but the New York City area has more than triple the population of Philadelphia, so maybe isn’t the best comparable.)

CSL goes on to estimate that all these new vaporconcerts would generate an additional $11.9 million in annual tax revenue for the city, $4.3 million for the local school district, and $6 million a year for the state. Divided by 613,000 annual attendees, that comes to $36 in taxes per ticket buyer, which seems like an awful lot, but it’s hard to argue with math like — well, the report doesn’t actually show its math, but surely it must have used some kind of math.

Contrast all this with a study commissioned by Comcast Spectacor, the Flyers owners, which concluded that “there isn’t sufficient content to support two buildings” and “no comparable markets have two arenas in the same city,” and that a new arena would only result in 8 to 12 new events in Philadelphia. That study also didn’t show its math — or maybe it did, but the study summary page links to an expired WeTransfer download, so we’ll never know — and obviously the Flyers owners have an incentive to claim that a new competing arena to theirs is a bad idea for the city. But then, CSL is owned by Legends Entertainment, a joint venture of the Dallas Cowboys and New York Yankees, so really it’s just competing conflicts of interest all the way down.

Parker’s administration also released a community impact analysis by a passel of consultants — BJH Advisors and Sojourner Consulting in partnership with Urban Partners, AKRF, Drs. Susannah Laramee Kidd and Laureen Hom, and Creative Development Partners, if you were wondering — that studied both the proposed Philly arena site and the neighborhood impact of new arenas in Brooklyn, Sacramento, and Washington, D.C., and its findings are quite a bit less rosy:

Although the project will not lead to direct housing displacement, there is evidence for increased indirect displacement of small businesses and low- and fixed- income individuals through gentrification and loss of cultural identity in Chinatown if the 76 Place were built…

One out of five small businesses in Chinatown are positioned to experience positive net economic benefit from the Arena. These businesses are mainly in the entertainment, food, and hotel sectors.

Half of the small businesses in Chinatown are not positioned to benefit from the Arena and may experience negative impacts. Most of these businesses are in the financial and professional services, healthcare, supermarket/grocery, and wholesale sectors.

Tl;dr: Chinatown is already facing gentrification pressures, and an arena on its doorstep would only make this worse.

The math used to arrive at these numbers is a little hard to follow as well, but at least it’s included — and based on “focus groups, interviews, and in Chinatown, three types of surveys (travel surveys, street intercept surveys, and small business surveys), business inventory, property tax analysis, and a historical literature review,” which is maybe a little better than “we looked at other cities with two arenas and they seem happy.”

The news coverage so far appears to be giving equal weight to both reports (plus design and traffic analyses), even the outlets that don’t know the mayor’s name, so that’s something. Though ultimately the fate of the arena plan is likely to come down to the local councilmember, Mark Squilla, who says he’s “comfortable making that decision” and has hedged like crazy about where he’ll come down on it. Maybe the public feedback form responses will sway him? Probably not, that’s not usually how local politics works, but it can’t hurt to try.

UPDATE: College of the Holy Cross sports economist Victor Matheson chimes in (in an email to a mutual connection, reprinted by their permission)

1. Including NYC and LA into comparisons with Philly for event utilization is complete economic malpractice. These are metro areas that are 2 to 3 times as large as Philly and have the population base to demand 2-3 times as many concerts. In addition, the arenas are serving much more geographically diverse locations. The proposed Philly arenas are like 6-7 miles apart, maybe 20 minutes even in traffic. The Forum and Honda center in LA are about 60 miles apart and Prudential Center in Newark is about 50 miles from UBS Arena on Long Island and both are way over an hour separated during normal traffic conditions. Any suggestion that a 2nd Philly arena will generate business like additional arenas in those two places is absurd. 

2.  There are other multiple sport arenas in DC, Toronto, Boston (and LA) that have more events than Philly, so that arena isn’t even at capacity now. If it isn’t at capacity now, why would one project a huge increase in events?

3. When comparing cities with multiple arenas, one should be looking at the smaller of the two arenas in comparable size cities to see the incremental impact. So, Phoenix, a similar sized city has an arena with 48 events like Philly and their second venue has 23 events. Minneapolis/St. Paul have one with 37 and a second with 27. A new arena is likely to add more like 25 new events, not 53 as projected. And you are not likely to add lots more high-demand events, because they already come. The new events you will get are the lower-tier events that are currently crowded out by the big events.

4. New events coming to Philly doesn’t mean more tax revenue for Philly. It means more money for out-of-state artists on tour and more tax revenue collected at the venue, but it means less revenue for other activities in the Philadelphia area. Concerts and entertainment tours are terrible in terms of leakages as local consumers put money in the pockets of out-of-state entertainers and not in the pockets of local small businesses.

And University of Colorado-Denver economist Geoffrey Propheter adds:

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Friday roundup: How fast is the A’s Vegas stadium going nowhere, and other questions

Another week down! Have you been enjoying the Olympics so far? Did you even remember the Olympics were happening, other than to make sure you weren’t going anywhere near Paris during them? I, for one, cannot wait for the 2028 flag football competition.

Meanwhile, here’s what’s been happening:

  • Until now Oakland A’s owner John Fisher’s lack of any options for funding a Las Vegas stadium has just been widespread conjecture, but now a research note by JMP Securities analyst Mitch Germain confirms it: “The Oakland A’s new stadium currently remains in a holding pattern. The last piece of the puzzle was private financing obtained by the owner for the remaining cost of the stadium. Chatter suggests this may have hit a roadblock.” Oh wait, “chatter” could just mean Germain is reading the same conjecture? We can upgrade it to extremely widespread conjecture, at least.
  • Oakland has officially signed a deal to sell its half of the Oakland Coliseum site to the African American Sports & Entertainment Group for $105 million, paid out between now and June 2026. If AASEG fails to make the payments, then … that part didn’t make it into the San Francisco Chronicle story, it’s okay, they had bigger fish to fry.
  • The Massachusetts legislature adjourned this week without rezoning industrial land in Everett for a new New England Revolution stadium, and team owner Robert Kraft said he’s “deeply disappointed,” then threw some passive-aggressive shade by adding, “Massachusetts’ political landscape is one of the only places where creating opportunities in environmental justice communities and rehabilitation is dictated by the needs and bargaining of political leaders with outside influences.” Outside influences, eh? Were they … agitators?
  • Cleveland councilmembers want the Cleveland Browns to keep playing in Cleveland, not so sure about the whole “giving them hundreds of millions of dollars” thing, film at 11.
  • There are two competing proposals to put a sales tax increase back on the ballot to raise money for a Kansas City Chiefs stadiums, and the Jackson County legislature just voted down the one for a 0.125% hike over 25 years but is still working on the one for a 0.375% hike for 40 years.
  • Chicago Bears president/CEO Kevin Warren says he still prefers a new stadium on the Chicago lakefront that would come with billions of dollars in public money, but if that doesn’t work, Arlington Heights is nice, too.
  • Turns out someone did do a more robust analysis than the one by the Pennsylvania Independent Fiscal Office of the number of hotel room stays attributable to Philadelphia Phillies fans, and the finding was “not statistically significant.” I know Springer books are pricey, but the fiscal office really couldn’t afford $180?
  • The Atlanta Braves owners’ decision to build their stadium in the middle of the woods in the suburbs has prompted much debate, but until now it didn’t have its own Tracey Ullman parody song.
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Friday roundup: Olympics remain world’s greatest money suck, TB Times self-extorts for Bucs stadium, Rays $1B deal nears final approval

This has been a long, busy week for a lot of reasons, so let me just thank those of you who re-upped your FoS memberships (your swag will be in the mail shortly!) and get straight to the news, of which there is a ton, because the stadium game doesn’t stop just because it’s summer or there’s other stuff vying for our attention:

  • The Paris Olympics start tonight, and how’s that going? You say France is spending $3-5 billion on the Games in exchange for “uncertain” benefits, tourists are staying away because they don’t want to deal with all the Olympic disruptions and local museums and such are set to lose a ton of money, and Paris is forcibly relocating homeless people to make the city seem more attractive? Good, good, that’s what the Olympics are traditionally all about.
  • The Tampa Bay Buccaneers owners aren’t asking for a new stadium, but that won’t stop the Tampa Bay Times from noting that the stadium is “aging” (aren’t we all, every day) and wondering if the Glazer family will want renovations or a whole new one. “Even after repeated requests from the [Tampa] Sports Authority for information, the Buccaneers have still not provided us with any renovation plans,” Hillsborough County Commissioner Ken Hagan told the paper, while Tampa spokesperson Adam Smith said the Bucs “haven’t approached the city about anything like that” and “we don’t expect them to.” But the Bucs’ lease runs out in 2028, and all the other kids are getting new and renovated stadiums, so Times sports reporter Rick Stroud still spends 2700 words speculating on what a new or renovated stadium could look like and how it would be paid for, it’s always a time saver when your marks take the initiative to extort themselves.
  • Also in Tampa Bay, two Pinellas County commissioners are asking questions about the Rays stadium deal in advance of a Tuesday final vote, questions like “How much will this actually cost taxpayers?” (more than $1 billion, by best estimates) and “Will the public have to put in even more money to make sure affordable housing is built?” Unfortunately, it only takes four of seven commissioners to pass the deal, so there’s no guarantee the dissenters will get answers to their questions before Tuesday, though county officials said they’d ask.
  • Chicago Bulls owner Jerry Reinsdorf and the owners of the Blackhawks are planning a $7 billion mixed-use project around the United Center, no details provided on whether this would involve public money or tax breaks or anything, they didn’t mention it in their press release so it probably isn’t important.
  • The Pennsylvania Independent Fiscal Office did a study of the economic impact of the Philadelphia Phillies and Pittsburgh Pirates stadiums, both of which were built with public money, but unfortunately even though it spelled out that it was calculating spending by both “fans whose main reason for travel is a Phillies game and casual fans who attend games because they happen to be visiting the region,” the final numbers just added up all spending in and around the stadiums and assumed it wouldn’t happen without them, very disappointing.
  • Not telling the Nevada Independent how to do its job, but if you’re going to roll with the headline “How Bally’s buyout might affect resort plans for A’s Vegas stadium site,” you might maybe want to include something about how it will affect that, you know?
  • Oakland A’s owner John Fisher is laying off half the team’s non-baseball staff so he can make Sacramento River Cats employees do two jobs at once, this has been your weekly John Fisher Sucks post.
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Friday roundup: St. Pete gives initial okay to Rays’ record $1.6B stadium subsidy, final vote set for July

Happy Friday, everybody — we’ve made it to the end of another week again, which seems to keep taking longer and longer, I blame the Moon.

And on to the news briefs, starting with a not-so-brief to cover what would get its own item if this were any other day of the week:

  • The St. Petersburg city council took its first vote on the proposed Tampa Bay Rays stadium project yesterday — St. Pete is one of those cities where the council has to vote on things twice, just to be sure — and as expected, it narrowly passed, with five out of eight councilmembers in favor. The official city expense is $212.5 million in property-tax kickbacks on the stadium site plus $130 million in infrastructure spending, but this leaves out a ton of hidden subsidies that Rays owner Stuart Sternberg would be getting:
    • About $300 million (present value) in future tax money from Pinellas County
    • $320 million worth of future property-tax reductions from the city and county
    • $700 million worth of land in exchange for payments worth just $80 million, making for a $620 million public gift

    That comes to a public subsidy of roughly $1.6 billion, which would shatter the Tennessee Titansrecord of $1.26 billion, at least until the next stadium project comes along. There’s still a final council vote to be taken on July 11, before which the city still needs to provide final documents — a local Sierra Club organizer called the process a “runaway train,” while Southern Poverty Law Center lawyers asked the city to “reconsider this rushed and chaotic timeline” — but the writing does seem to be on the wall. MLB commissioner Rob Manfred said, “I think they’ve done a phenomenal job in Tampa Bay, competing, and I think enhanced revenue streams just provides flexibility that can only make things better,” which I think means he’s happy, my universal translator doesn’t do Manfredese.

  • A consulting report for Washington, D.C. estimates that a new Commanders stadium in the district could create $1.26 billion in “yearly economic output,” and while I haven’t read the full document yet, economist J.C. Bradbury has the best response anyway: “I fear going into the details grants some legitimacy to the idea that there is some debate over the economic impact of stadiums. If the consultants feel the decades of economic research on the subject is in error, they are free to submit their challenges to peer review.” (The city also commissioned a second report on how to finance said stadium, but has no plans to release it, so you know it’s got to be juicy — fire off the FOIA requests!)
  • Charlotte Mayor Vi Lyles spoke yesterday about why she thinks a $650 million Carolina Panthers stadium renovation subsidy in exchange for just a 15-year lease extension would be good deal despite Charlotte residents apparently thinking otherwise, and one thing she said was: “This is an investment in our future. That’s why is strongly support what we’re doing with Tepper Sports. Yes, I wish we had the ability to do this on our own. But we have to partner with Tepper Sports and our hospitality industry.” We wish we could pay for the whole stadium renovation, but sadly we have to let the team owner who would benefit from it chip in is certainly a choice, let’s just say that.
  • MLB is apparently requiring all teams’ new nonrelocation agreements to allow playoffs games at a neutral site, and Athletics stadium czar Dave Kaval says that’d be great for Las Vegas, which could be in line to host a neutral-site World Series if baseball ever decides to do like the NFL does with the Super Bowl. Given that it’s going to take decades for every team’s nonrelocation agreement to expire and be rewritten, and that Las Vegas could be uninhabitable by then, that’s maybe not the most convincing argument, but Kavals gonna Kaval, especially when he needs to distract from the mess that is the team’s Vegas stadium plans.
  • R.J. Anderson wrote a super-long look at the public ownership model for pro sports teams for CBS Sports this week, and while I have some quibbles — in particular, it tends to conflate community ownership by fans (the Green Bay Packers, German soccer teams) with public ownerships by municipalities (several Canadian Football League teams and minor-league baseball teams) — it’s a good, in-depth overview. Whether either fan ownership or public ownership would necessarily put an end to stadium subsidy demands is an open question: The Packers did demand money to upgrade Lambeau Field, and sports leagues have leaned on municipally owned teams to build new stadiums. But as Anderson notes, at least fans and municipal officials have other priorities than just squeezing every last penny of profit out of teams, so there would be some benefits like cheaper tickets and fewer move threats, which would at least be a start.
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Panthers’ economic impact claims would require each fan to spend an extra $1000 per game

What’s a good way to distract people from the huge dollar figure that you’re asking the public to deliver to you for your stadium renovations? Throw out an even huger number, and call that “benefits”:

Panthers stadium renovations could generate $22 billion economic impact

If you’re even a semi-regular reader of this site, you’re probably already rolling your eyes: Economic consulting reports are usually just PR documents designed to make made-up numbers seem legit, and “economic impact” in particular is a largely meaningless term that can reflect people handing each other money with no benefit to the local economy. But sure, let’s check out these impact figures and see where they come from.

According to a slideshow on the city of Charlotte’s website, the current Carolina Panthers stadium generates $1.1 billion a year in economic impact (money changing hands) and $54.3 million in fiscal impact (actual taxes paid). The very fine print there reads “Source: Economic Impact Report created by Dr. Tom H. Regan, Department of Sport and Entertainment Management, University of South Carolina.” Regan, a trip to LinkedIn tells us, has bachelor’s and master’s degrees in accounting, and an educational doctorate in sport administration, none of which especially qualifies him to determine, for example, how much money spent at Panthers games would still be spent at other Charlotte-area events if the football team ceased to exist.

That $22 billion figure for additional impact from a renovated stadium — and $1 billion in actual taxes generated — isn’t actually in the city report, but just in a city statement quoted by WBTV. So we don’t know if it was calculated by Regan or just pulled out of city officials’ butts. We can, however, figure out what it would take to make those numbers real:

  • Panthers owner David Tepper is agreeing to stay in town for an additional 20 years (or maybe 15 if he decides to pay to leave early, but let’s give him the benefit of the doubt here), meaning to get to $1 billion, the stadium renovations would have to generate an additional $50 million in tax revenues a year.
  • The renovated stadium wouldn’t change the stadium’s capacity, so the additional tax money would have to be generated by the same number of fans that are currently attending Panthers games.
  • Likewise, the Panthers’ payroll and the number of hotel stays wouldn’t go up just because there would be new bars for body-horror cloned fans to go to, so all of the new tax revenues would have to come from additional in-game spending.
  • The Panthers draw about 600,000 fans a year to home games. That comes to $83 in additional taxes per fan per game.
  • The Charlotte sales tax rate is 7.25%. So to generate $83 in sales taxes, each fan at each game would have to spend an additional $1149.

There might be a couple of other tax revenue streams to take into consideration, plus things like multiplier effects — it’s hard to say without seeing the actual report, if the actual report even shows its math — but suffice to say that the only way for renovations to an existing stadium for an existing team to have the kind of impact Charlotte city officials are claiming would be for ticket and concessions prices to go up astronomically. And even then, you’d have to account for how much those Panthers fans cut back on their spending on other things after dropping thousands of dollars just to go to a football game.

I just wrote all that without checking in on Economist Twitter, let’s see what it has to say about these claims:

Yep, that about covers it. I’m sure the North Carolina news media will correct its errors tomorrow and hahaha, no, that never happens. But we can pretend it will, and if there’s one thing this whole situation proves, it’s that if you pretend hard enough, you can have it called news — now just let me fire up Powerpoint…

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Friday roundup: More vague Royals threats, Coyotes trying every trick in book at once, plus: stadium theme song challenge!

Not gonna lie, this week has been a lot, what with Kansas City and environs voting down a Royals and Chiefs tax subsidy proposal and the Oakland A’s announcing a temporary move to Sacramento, requiring eight full posts in four days. (If you want to show your appreciation, or just your sympathy, you know where to find the tip jar.) I’m tempted to let you all go a day early, but then what would we do with all the other news that happened this week and got short shrift? Let’s take it one bullet point at a time and see how it goes:

  • Kansas City Royals owner John Sherman’s wife, Marny Sherman, for some reason got to be the one to make move threats in the wake of Tuesday’s “no” vote on a $500 million sales tax surcharge for the Royals and Chiefs, posting on Facebook that “neither team will work with Jackson County again.” Presumably she means to imply that the teams will either look to neighboring Clay County or the neighboring state of Kansas — she concluded her post, “We will be lucky if both teams wind up in Kansas. At least still in the area!” — though neither has a stadium funding plan in place right now, which is a big part of why the team owners were focusing on Jackson County. Meanwhile, Missouri state Sen. Bill Eigel — yes, the flamethrower guy — says, “I know of no path in the Missouri Senate where we’re going to do any public funding of sports stadiums” and “I think that would be resisted vociferously and extensively,” and while Eigel doesn’t have a leadership position, I’m not sure I’d want to risk finding out what he means by “resist extensively.”
  • Arizona Coyotes owner Alex Meruelo is dead set on winning an auction for public land on which to build a new arena, and also is looking for someone who wants to buy the team, and also is threatening to move the team somewhere if he doesn’t get the land. Plus, the Arizona Republic reports that “team leadership is also likely to seek a special taxing arrangement to help finance construction” if it does win the land bid. Alex Meruelo is also a lot — maybe he might want to consider having one less pregnancy?
  • Marc Normandin has taken on the question of why other MLB owners are content to let John Fisher have the A’s spend three years playing in a minor-league stadium and then potentially move them to baseball’s smallest market while continuing to rake in revenue-sharing checks, and concluded that other owners are not content at all, but they’re also not going to do anything about it: “Owners are probably just happy that the Fisher saga is nearly at an end, and that this potentially opens up the path for them to split expansion fees once the A’s are fully settled in somewhere new in a new park, and hey, in the meantime, one fewer suitor on free agency means prices get to come down.”
  • More on the Sacramento River Cats stadium that is supposed to host the A’s the next three years, via SFGate:  [River Cats broadcaster Bill] Laskey mentioned that the press amenities are dreadfully lacking, with only two total broadcast booths — one for each radio team — and, in Laskey’s estimation, space for four to eight people in the press box. When the occasional River Cats game was televised, Laskey told SFGATE the TV crew would take over one of the booths, forcing a radio broadcaster to call the game outside under a canopy, even in the blistering Sacramento sun.”
  • Philadelphia’s Civic Design Review committee called 76ers owner Josh Harris’s plan to build an arena on the downtown Gallery mall site “undercooked” and a continuation of the bad public planning that led to the failed mall in the first place, with one member saying, “We need to think about the real giveback here and whether we should build this thing.” The committee is only advisory, but coupled with the fact that city agencies are now months overdue producing studies of the arena project that would allow a city council vote, all the trash talking only adds to the project’s distinct lack of momentum.
  • Why should St. Petersburg-area taxpayers spend around $1.5 billion on a new Tampa Bay Rays stadium to revitalize the area around the current stadium when it could just build all the other stuff like housing and museums and skip the expensive part? That’s the question being asked by Tampa Bay Times opinion editor Graham Brink, before acknowledging that there are intangible benefits to having a sports team: “When the team wins, the city feels a sense of collective pride. What’s that worth?” That’s actually been studied, and the answer is: Not as much as you might think.
  • I had to head back home after one day of last week’s sports economics conference and so sadly missed taking in a Baltimore Orioles game with the assembled economists, but fortunately the Baltimore Banner has the recap.
  • This interview with Good Jobs First director Greg LeRoy took place before the Alexandria, Virginia arena plan for the Washington Capitals and Wizards got a fork stuck in it, but it’s a great reminder of both how dubious the economic arguments were for the deal (MuniCap, the consultant that came up with $75 parking fees to justify the arena, is “not a company known for saying no, let’s put it that way,” says LeRoy) and how dumb it is that team owners refuse to release details of their own numbers on the grounds it’s “proprietary” information.
  • And this interview with me by Debtwire took place right after the Kansas City stadium tax vote, but we covered a lot of ground regarding other cities’ stadium and arena shenanigans as well. If only we had had a theme song
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