Detroit could levy tax on tickets and not give that money to team owners, stop the presses

One of the basic concepts that economists and budget experts like to try to point out about sports funding deals is that taxes are fungible — that is, if you don’t use them on a stadium or arena, you can use them to pay for something else. So if your city is, oh, I dunno, proposing to funnel off hundreds of millions of dollars in stadium sales taxes and car rental and hotel taxes on the grounds that those are “tourism-related,” it’s important to remember that once you give that money to the owner of the local sports team, you can’t use it for anything else.

Which brings us to Detroit, where local politicians and budget watch groups are looking at a common means of funding sports venues — a ticket tax — but for a very different use:

A new Citizens Research Council of Michigan study found an admissions tax on Detroit sports and entertainment venues could raise between $14 million and $47 million annually, depending on the tax rate. … The extra revenue could offset a property tax cut between 1.7 and 5.7 mills.

Detroit is one of only a handful of cities without a ticket tax, notes the report, and there’s a reason for that: The city used to impose a 10% tax on tickets at Joe Louis Arena when the Red Wings played there, but that was eliminated as part of the deal giving team owners the Ilitch family a new arena plus $261.5 milion in state and city funds to build it, plus $400 million in subsidies for development around the arena, plus another $783 million for in subsidies for more development when the first development didn’t happen, plus possibly another billion dollars more. Clawing back $47 million a year from a new 10% ticket tax wouldn’t make Detroit taxpayers whole on all the tax money they’ve pumped into sports projects (including those for the Tigers and Lions) over the years, but it would at least be a start.

All the ticket tax talk is being spurred by a mayoral race between council president Mary Sheffield, who favors one, and pastor Solomon Kinloch Jr., whose position appears to be that it’s a bad idea because Sheffield came up with it. (Both Sheffield and Kinloch, incidentally, have expressed enthusiasm for continuing to hand out tax breaks in order to promote development.) It does at least look like there’s nothing in the teams’ leases that would block such a tax — Bridge Detroit reports that if the state legislature passed a law allowing cities to impose them, then the city council enacted an ordinance, then a majority of Detroit voters approved it, it could happen.

The report does also raise the issue of whether it’s fair to create higher ticket prices in order to fund city priorities, but doesn’t appear to have examined whether in other cities that have ticket taxes, team owners have largely ended up eating the cost because they’re already charging the most that the market will bear, as economists project that they should. I did some initial asking around and found that while it’s really hard to calculate the effects — if a new stadium opens with a new ticket tax and prices soar, who’s to say if it’s the fault of the tax or of all the shiny new cupholders? — the best study of this appears to be by Stefan Szymanski of Soccernomics fame: He looked at what happened when to soccer ticket prices when the United Kingdom added a 10% VAT sales tax in 1973, and found that around 25% of the cost was passed through to ticket buyers.

More research needed, clearly, but this supports the general idea that ticket taxes mostly hit the wallets of sports team owners, unlike other taxes that can be passed along more fully to regular consumers. Whether ticket taxes should be used for property tax relief is another question, but at least we can dispense with the idea that this would be charging sports fans to bail out property owners — it would mostly be charging sports team owners to do so. Michigan and Detroit legislators and voters, take note.

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Lions owners, Dan Gilbert discuss adding retractable roof to make Ford Field somewhat less crappy for soccer

Dan Gilbert’s pitch for a Detroit MLS expansion team was declared dead as soon as he gave up on his $300 million–subsidy land swap plan and switched to wanting to have the soccer team play at the Lions‘ stadium instead, but he never exactly gave up on it. So it’s not surprising that he now has a Plan C to get back on the future expansion list — but as for what that plan is, well:

Detroit Lions president Rod Wood said on WJR-AM (760) Monday morning that he and other Lions executives are looking into a retractable roof to help bring a Major League Soccer team to Detroit.

This is not the first time the idea of a roof for soccer has been raised — Gilbert himself mentioned it to Sports Business Daily last month, saying, “If we get that worked out, I think we have a pretty good chance” of getting an MLS team. Wood provided some more details yesterday, though, kind of:

Wood also explained adding a retractable roof is something that would be easy, saying the cost could be “With a ‘M’ and an ‘S’ and maybe three digits in front of the ‘M.'”

“We’ll figure out who’s going to pay for it after we figure out the cost,” Wood said.

For those who aren’t fans of cryptic crosswords, that first sentence translates as “it’ll cost at least $100 million,” which given that the U.S. Open’s new retractable roof cost $150 million and the Tampa Bay Rays owners are talking about a fixed roof that would cost $245 million seems like an underestimate at best. (Of course Wood didn’t say what those three digits would be.) Whereas the second sentence is either one of the most hilariously inept things a sports executive has said, or else code for “we don’t know who’s gonna pay for it, but it sure won’t be us.”

The idea behind adding a retractable roof is that it would enable the Lions to add a grass field, which would make MLS happy. That’s not an outright requirement, though — Atlanta United, for example, was okayed as a new franchise despite an artificial turf field — and it wouldn’t really address other reasons why MLS prefers soccer-specific stadiums, which is that having maybe 10,000 fans rattling around inside a 65,000-seat soccer stadium feels kind of crappy and looks even worse on TV. (The Falcons modified their stadium for soccer by building in moving sections of seats and retractable curtains to cover the upper deck.)

And while I’m always happy to see sports team owners looking to adapt existing stadiums rather than build entire new ones, at anything other than the very low end of this price point, it doesn’t really make a whole lot of sense — other cities are building whole new soccer stadiums for only about $200 million, so if a roof would end up costing something similar, that seems like kind of a waste, though I suppose it does save on land acquisition costs, and let you get twice the bang for your buck on maintenance and operations on your building.

MLS hasn’t even set its next deadline for expansion bids, so there’s plenty of time for the Lions owners and Gilbert to work this out. But for the moment, I’m categorizing this plan of action as “screwy.”

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Did Detroit let Lions and Red Wings stall on water bills while punishing residents? Definitely maybe

The Daily Show took a look last night at how Detroit is shutting off water to poor residents who don’t pay their bills, but has left the water on for the Red Wings and Lions despite delinquent payments. It got lots of attention, and because the Daily Show is a comedy show, much of it was of the “Ha ha, so amusing” variety:

The controversy over water shutoffs for Detroit residents unable to pay their bills was front and center Monday night on Comedy Central’s “The Daily Show with Jon Stewart.”

It was a story that took some humorous twists and turns, and it probably was deemed offensive or even inaccurate to some as well.

That article on MLive didn’t actually provide any details of anyone who thought the segment was offensive or inaccurate, but in a followup, the site provided this:

“I can say right now that the information was not accurate,” DWSD spokesperson Curtrise Garner told MLive.com…

Garner said she would send MLive more information via e-mail Tuesday afternoon to show that all the commercial accounts mentioned in the “Daily Show” report have been paying their bills and don’t have any overdue balances.

“I’m taking a look at the larger ones here in the city and they are all current,” Garner said over the phone.

So where did this report of overdue water bills come from in the first place? It looks like from a June article in the Guardian, which further linked to a blog post by Oakland University journalism professor Shea Howell that reported that “Joe Louis Arena/Red Wings Hockey owes $80,000 and Ford Field $55,000.” Howell didn’t provide a source for those numbers, but they’re pretty specific to be made up, leading to the likely conclusion that if everyone is telling the truth, the Red Wings and Lions were behind on their water bills in June, didn’t get their water shut off, and have since paid up. Which is, as the Daily Show segment makes clear, the same treatment that low-income water protestors are requesting from the city.

I’m trying to reach Howell to get more info on her numbers, but as MLive seems eager to show us, modern journalism doesn’t need to wait until we see the actual documents. Updates as needed.

[UPDATE: Okay, thanks to a couple of correspondents who wish to remain nameless, I’ve tracked the Lions/Red Wings water bill story back a bit further: This all dates back to an April WDIV-TV report that found that the two sports teams were behind on their water bills. As of July, the teams still hadn’t paid, but as the Detroit water department told Metro Times, it was because the Lions and Red Wings owners were disputing their past stormwater runoff bills, which the water department was “still in the process of trying to collect.”

So: Detroit’s sports teams aren’t being allowed to keep their running water despite not paying their bills for that; they’re allowed to keep their running water despite not having paid different water bills. Which is less black and white than the simplified version that the Daily Show presented, and they probably should have done their homework better, or at least explained the situation more fully. But the general “one system for poor folks and another for big corporations” vibe is still legit.]

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